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Regarding bushes, on modern cars I find the Poly ones can be softer. It's not unknown in French circles for 205 drivers to use Genuine bushes over the Powerflex items for life, fitment and firmness.

Maybe I've got the wrong end of the stick (I hope I don't tread on any toes here), but maybe TR7V8 refers to his experience on his TR7. I know on my MGB and a mate's Dolly Sprint, the quality of the rubber bushes is short of appalling (but I guess they are cheap which keeps most customers happy...) with them wearing out within the year and generally leaving you with sloppy handling. Hence in this case, Poly bushes become a very viable option.


Yup TR7 & some other cars. The TR7 is different to a lot of cars in that it has a lot of rubber in its suspension. Powerflex or equivalent makes a big difference as it stops the subframe moving around. Mine was completely Powerflexed when finished & seemed to be no harsher than rubber ones. So I wouldn't expect it to make a massive amount of difference on a 944.
I spoke to Barry at Hartech when I changed the wishbones & apparently his replacements have bushes that are harder (less compliance) than the Pork originals & this is when they were new. New Castor bushes would be a good idea which would give 968 castor values & less compliance.

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Hi,

All I can say is students have come a long way to be driving Porshces. I couldn't even afford a car back in the day on my grant :( , and thats only going back to 1997 when I left polytechnic with a HND in Electronics.

I wish you all the best with you're project though :D

Ben :bounce:


To be fair I only graduated last year!

I blame Britain's car prices. Go to Ireland or EU and secondhand car prices are far higher. My S2 cost less than my 306 GTi-6 and for now anyway (bar the engine issue) has cost less to run (servicing/insurance) and IMO is more suited to my driving style and motorway trips have been significantly improved. And besides you guys seem to be good company :lol: .

Scary to think our cars cost as much as a house back in the day....

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And besides you guys seem to be good company :lol: .

Scary to think our cars cost as much as a house back in the day....

Thanks we're all barking but it is good to talk to other loons!

Yup remember my boss getting a 944 in 1986 I got a Renault 11 Electronic. The Pork cost 22K & the Renault was 7K.....

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Id be surprised if you can improve the head... Id concentrate on the inlet tract: particularly matching the inlet manifold to the cylinder head. Same for the echaust manifold too.


Theres quite a lot to be had with the head even with standard valves. (Though the ports look good.) The area around the guide & the valve seat is fairly critical. The info on the horse power isn't mine. It comes from two guys who do a lot of remaping & have seen quite a few 8v's on the rollers. (2 different dynos. Rick woods racing Stockport & Chip Wizards at Milnrow. Ricks doing my cylinder head.) The only 8v I've seen that got near to oem power was a 2.7 & that was Adams. Mine could only manage 112 at the wheels after an engine rebiuld & new injectors. It's a lot better than that now but only after a lot of work which isn't finished yet. The stock inlet manifold is poor.But it flows just enough for the standard head. Would be good to fabricate somthing better with equal tract lengths. I'd like to try the Lindsey one that doesn't work so well on the turbo but it's big money now with the exchange rate. Failing that throttle bodies would be great! Then do the exhaust. It would be easier to sell it & buy somthing more tunable or with more HP to start with. But the wife would insist on a Nissan Micra so...........Actually I bought this car when drunk & looking for shoping car on ebay. Only just survived. :lol:

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Thankyou all so much for your responses, got to make my mind up what the next project will be on the car, after a bit I'm spending on the body soon!

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I'm servicing the car this weekend what oil would be recommended?

The car has done 130K and uses about 1ltr per 1,000 miles.

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Porsche consumption limit is said to be 1.5 litres per 1000km, so it appears your car seems fine there. What are you currently using.

Most garages recommend using 15W40 with EMC recommending Castrol GTX 'High Mileage'. I know a few owners use Mobil 1's 15W50 Full Synthetic with no issues. Use a Mahle Knecht oil filter or a genuine Porsche oil filter is also recommended (Not sure how the Mann filters fare).

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I've been wondering about oil too, I think mine is in desperate need for a change. How much oil does it take to fill a 944? Don't want to buy too little.

ETA: Just looked it up on Clarks Garage and it says 5.5 litres.

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madrob6 wrote:
I've been wondering about oil too, I think mine is in desperate need for a change. How much oil does it take to fill a 944? Don't want to buy too little.

ETA: Just looked it up on Clarks Garage and it says 5.5 litres.

That is a bit low, most manuals say 6.5L & I normally use more than that. I use 15/50W Valvoline Racing which is a straight mineral & replace it every 6K or every year which now it isn't a daily driver is 2k. I use Mann filters or genuine Porsche ones. Pork ones are the same price from an OPC with TIPEC discount as the Mann ones. I do believe that Mann are Pork OEM though they certainly look & feel identical.

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Well I was going to buy 8 litres so I should have enough. Most I've ever put into a car before has been 3.5 so 6.5 should be interesting as will finding a vessel to transport the old stuff to the recycling centre.

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madrob6 wrote:
Well I was going to buy 8 litres so I should have enough. Most I've ever put into a car before has been 3.5 so 6.5 should be interesting as will finding a vessel to transport the old stuff to the recycling centre.

I use a washing up bowl to drain in as it comes out a bit quick for a drainer can, not like the V8 which used to be a waterfall of the stuff.
I then pour that into the empty can the oil was bought in. I then store it & either give it to my mother to paint her fence with or eventually take a load down the tip... err recycling depot!

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Previously I've used an old oil bottle with the side cut off but if I'm expecting 6.5 litres to come out I don't think that's going to cut it. I'll have to cut the side off something large or be quick at swapping between a fresh one and get the pressure washer ready for the aftermath.

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madrob6 wrote:
I've been wondering about oil too, I think mine is in desperate need for a change. How much oil does it take to fill a 944? Don't want to buy too little.

ETA: Just looked it up on Clarks Garage and it says 5.5 litres.

That is a bit low, most manuals say 6.5L & I normally use more than that. I use 15/50W Valvoline Racing which is a straight mineral & replace it every 6K or every year which now it isn't a daily driver is 2k. I use Mann filters or genuine Porsche ones. Pork ones are the same price from an OPC with TIPEC discount as the Mann ones. I do believe that Mann are Pork OEM though they certainly look & feel identical.


I thought Porsche ones were Mahle Knecht filters. I do admit the Mann filters are across the board meant to be a safe belt for filtration. Mine currently had a Mann filter on simply due to the fact that I simply needed another filter to keep my engine going for the time being.

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madrob6 wrote:
I've been wondering about oil too, I think mine is in desperate need for a change. How much oil does it take to fill a 944? Don't want to buy too little.

ETA: Just looked it up on Clarks Garage and it says 5.5 litres.

That is a bit low, most manuals say 6.5L & I normally use more than that. I use 15/50W Valvoline Racing which is a straight mineral & replace it every 6K or every year which now it isn't a daily driver is 2k. I use Mann filters or genuine Porsche ones. Pork ones are the same price from an OPC with TIPEC discount as the Mann ones. I do believe that Mann are Pork OEM though they certainly look & feel identical.



Series one cars use 5.5l; series two cars have a larger sump and require 6.5 litres.

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tr7v8 wrote:
madrob6 wrote:
I've been wondering about oil too, I think mine is in desperate need for a change. How much oil does it take to fill a 944? Don't want to buy too little.

ETA: Just looked it up on Clarks Garage and it says 5.5 litres.

That is a bit low, most manuals say 6.5L & I normally use more than that. I use 15/50W Valvoline Racing which is a straight mineral & replace it every 6K or every year which now it isn't a daily driver is 2k. I use Mann filters or genuine Porsche ones. Pork ones are the same price from an OPC with TIPEC discount as the Mann ones. I do believe that Mann are Pork OEM though they certainly look & feel identical.



Series one cars use 5.5l; series two cars have a larger sump and require 6.5 litres.

Simon

Ummm now you come to mention it the 924S I did used a bit less. That is what I get for typing without thinking when tired!

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