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Just wondering..What would I have to spend to get a similar package to the 928 - Looks, speed etc..etc in a Ferrari?

Hi

I owned a Ferrari Mondial Quattrovalvole (32 valve -Quad cam) 3.2 ltr V8...before I bought my 928...

It was totally different to a 928...think of a giant go kart and you wont be far wrong...very very fast through bends or curves or roundabouts, very hard suspension but you wouldnt want to drive it long distance..I can still remember the backache from doing that... and not as fast as a 928 either...around 150 if you pushed it really hard...the gearbox always reminded me of an early vw beetle,,snick, snick, etc and its very easy to miss a gear..

Having said all that, there IS something special about driving a Ferrari and people always look at you and it has a FANTASIC noise, they seemed to spend more time tuning the exhaust noise in the factory than the engine lol...

Cost...hmmm I would guess around 20k for a decent Mondial these days... and servicing prices are totally horrific... I remember being quoted £2400.00 for a caambelt change once...probably more these days....even parts like dizzy caps were £70 each (2 of them) and £50 for rotor arms...etc etc...

Good cars though,,but I never regretted selling it and buying my 928...much better

All the best Brett

Thanks Brett, first thing is ...why is the 928 in comparison so cheap to buy? I guess your never going to be able to compete looks wise (the badge) also the "having a Ferrari in the garage"..but the Porks are surley better screwed together ...what has gone wrong for the 928 to be valued so low? It is a Porsche too?

I was reading this months car and classic and they have good hillman Imps at £5K!!! Its just not right!

Is it worth holding on to a good one for a few years?

Cheers

Rob

You should PM lightning, that's exactly what he done. I think he still has the Mondial.

Hi Rob

I did a LOT of work myself on my Ferrari because of the labour costs...I did that £2400 cambelt for example... and if you think a 928 is hard to work on...a Ferrari is MUCH worse...you are meant to take out the engine to do that belt ..I didnt as found a way round it... but everything is hard to get at and I seriously mean everything...

The 928 is MUCH better "screwed together" than a Ferrari.... at least as far as with a Ferrari, the designers expected ALL work to be done at a dealers... I think Porsche at least thought about some stuff being done by normal people...

Dont even get me started on my Ferraris alarm....if you think 928 alarm systems give trouble...multiply that by 1000 on a Ferrari one lol...

I bought my Mondial for 6k and sold it 5 years later for 12k....but it did need a lot of work doing when I bought it that the previous owner was NOT prepared to pay Ferrari to fix... (like the cam belt)

So if you buy one... make ABSOLUTELY SURE its been serviced up to date.... if not then start thinking 5k plus to get it serviced... and I NEVER EVER found a Paul Anderson type person for mine...lol , it was dealer or diy...which is what I did...

They are good cars though, so dont let me put you off as long as you have deep pockets.....

I still remember fondly that Ferrari howl as you pushed it around a roundabout as if it was on rails

And people ALWAYS look and instantly know its a Ferrari, particularly if its red...like mine was

All the best Brett

"what has gone wrong for the 928 to be valued so low? It is a Porsche too?"

Answer - Jeremy Clarkson

Did it in for the 924 and 944 as well.

Still, it means that those in the know can pick cars and parts up for peanuts

How much do you think your car is worth?

I owned a 928 S4 and changed it for a Ferrari Mondial t Coupe last year.

I posted about it at the time if you search my posts. Both are superb cars.....but I have to say the Ferrari is something special. Everything you have read about Ferrari is true!

However for a good Mondial t you are looking at £15-20,000 so it's twice the price of a good 928 S4

With regard to reliability I spent a fair bit of money on my 928 (£2,000 in the first couple of months!) and in terms of issues I'd say the Ferrari has been more reliable. The potential for scary wallet emptying faults is worse, it's just that I have not had any (yet).
Parts supply can be expensive with Ferrari as you don't get people breaking them for spares so much, and some new parts cost a fortune. A lot of the electrical parts though are Bosch and can often be sourced elsewhere for a fraction of the cost if you get the part number.
Again though, I've not really needed too much as yet. A major service on the Mondial t (required every 3 years) costs £1500-2000 at a specialist as the engine has to be removed to replace the cam belt. The earlier Mondials (8 and 3.2) can be done with the engine in, and this reduces the price to £700. Goodness knows who quoted £2400 to do a cam belt service on a 3.2. Ferrari main dealer?
Other servicing and repairs I would say are no harder to do than the 928. I can say this from personal experience as I've worked on both. In fact I just dismantled the Ferrari suspension on all four corners yesterday to reset the ride height and it was not a difficult job, no special tools required.

The Mondial t has a 3.4 litre V8 which develops 300bhp, so nearer to the 928 in output.
Tht "t" stands for "transverse" although the engine is actually mounted longitudinally...it refers to the gearbox, mounted transversely at the rear and driven by bevel gears from the crankshaft like a Formula One car. At least the clutch is easy to check/replace as it's on the back of the gearbox!
It also has adjustable suspension, there's a switch on the console that sets "soft, normal, hard" and on soft it rides over bumps like they are not there. It's bizarre, like being in an old Ford Cortina. On "normal" it's firm but not jarring, while "hard" is as you'd expect.....hard.
The Mondial t also was the first Ferrari to get ABS and PAS although it can't match the 928 for "toys". The aircon usually works as it has to be serviced every 3 years when you remove the engine, also it remains on at all times unless you turn off the HVAC completely.

My 1990 Mondial had only 24,700 miles on the clock when I bought it in 2010, with some of the eight previous owners hardly using it at all (1500 miles in total since 1997) Not me though. I've added 2,000 miles already and I use the car at every opportunity.

I'd love to own both cars, in fact I looked at buying my 928 back, but I couldn't possibly afford to run two cars of this type.
There ARE "Paul Anderson" types who can look after Ferrari at reasonable prices, well there are now anyway, I have found a couple in my area. Main dealer servicing/repair prices are out of my league.

Sod all that though...just look at it! Now, where are the keys......

well said brett, 928s rule there the best

After all that, I sold the Ferrari this week!

Great car but the bills were just too high. £500 last month and another £1000 this month. At least I got my money back when I sold it.

Now I'm looking for something else.....

I've bought a Lotus Elise S2

Here it is.

lovely stuff

Hi Lightining,

Very nice car, hope your pleased with it? I decided to buy one of these.. I have to say I looked at lots of options and felt that this was the best "all-rounder"...for me. I love driving the "Zed" I love the design inside and out and the 6 cylinder engine goes well makes a great sound.

The 928 was a great car (Two years & no problems) and may come back to it one day..

Best Wishes Rob

I had a Z3 2.8 in 2008

Great car, keep wondering why I sold it. Was a really good one too.

Here's a picture of it.