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 Post subject: MOT failure - advice and help? Now PASSED but a query...
PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:36 pm 
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HI All,

Submitted my 944 2.7 project for MOT this morning and it failed - but not on too much and given it stood for 4 years or so and I've replaced the sills etc - I was quite pleased.
Failure points were:

Illegal front and back number plates (!)
n/s front brake binding (probably a good run would sort this)
A couple of non functioning lights - again probably corroded connectors
and...emissions.

I had 6% CO whereas the legal limit is 3.5%
Reading on this forum and others - a good 944 should achieve around 2% CO content/volume

I've read that the usual problems of running rich are:

Failed/failing DME temp sensor
Worn AFM
Plug leads
Spark plugs
and of course air filter

Are there any other causes?

Car had a FSH before layup and it looks like the plugs were very new, Plug leads are unknown (a bit nibbled by rodents though!)
Air filter new.

Car idles and starts fine - it does feel hesitatnt when running on the road - likes it is running rich.
Is the AFM an easy fix? clean? inspect? I have Clarks Garage guide to the AFM but any/all advice welcome!

Thanks

Ian


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Ian, if it is miles out, it is probably the AFM. What is the Bosch number of it and I will see if I have a spare one here? Are you getting a bit of black smoke out the back when you first start up from cold?
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Can you say that being 6% CO content/volume (i.e. 100% more than legla max and 150% more than expected) is way out - then I guess the AFM is a suspect.
Would the car having stood for a long time (4 years or so) have a bearing on the performance of the AFN?
I'll check part numbers but it is for an 89 2.7 model.
Thanks for the reply!

Ian


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:33 am 
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HI

Retested my 944 this morning and it passed. However, the emissions (CO) was now down at 0.2% which seems far too lean.
To adjust the previously high emissions (running rich condition) - I replaced the following parts (as per 2.7 parts codes):

DME temp sensor
The MAF unit
New air filter

Previously during the resto on the car, I had changed the injectors for reconned ones for the 2.7 engine. In hindsight, looking at the old MAF, the mixture screw had clearly been adjusted, so I guess its possible that the mixture had been enriched then to account for original faltering injectors(?). Anyway the MAF unit I installed still had the tamper proof plug installed so i assume it was still factory set.

So- 0.2% is too lean I think and the engine was running a little warm too - what are folks thoughts on here?
Tweak the MAF mixture a bit to enrich the mixture?

Tnanks for thoughts

Ed


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:50 am 
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doctor924 wrote:
HI

Retested my 944 this morning and it passed. However, the emissions (CO) was now down at 0.2% which seems far too lean.
To adjust the previously high emissions (running rich condition) - I replaced the following parts (as per 2.7 parts codes):

DME temp sensor
The MAF unit
New air filter

Previously during the resto on the car, I had changed the injectors for reconned ones for the 2.7 engine. In hindsight, looking at the old MAF, the mixture screw had clearly been adjusted, so I guess its possible that the mixture had been enriched then to account for original faltering injectors(?). Anyway the MAF unit I installed still had the tamper proof plug installed so i assume it was still factory set.

So- 0.2% is too lean I think and the engine was running a little warm too - what are folks thoughts on here?
Tweak the MAF mixture a bit to enrich the mixture?

Tnanks for thoughts

Ed

Yup tweak the screw to get around 1.8%-2.0% It should be a bit more economical as well.

PS what was the issue with the plates?

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Number plates - to quote from the failure sheet:

"Front/rear - registration plate background overprinted or shadowed with text"

The plates had the porsche badge on the first inch or so and '944' in repeated light colour in the background as a watermark style feature....

Anyway - just got new plates made up
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doctor924 wrote:
Number plates - to quote from the failure sheet:

"Front/rear - registration plate background overprinted or shadowed with text"

The plates had the porsche badge on the first inch or so and '944' in repeated light colour in the background as a watermark style feature....

Anyway - just got new plates made up
CHeers
Ed

Me thinks I'll be changing mine before the MOT & change them back afterwards then...

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