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 Post subject: Re: CV Joints - a few questions
PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2016 5:53 pm 
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Yes, I know they move from side to side. When Chris at Center Gravity points out issues on my car, it makes sense to take notice. If the clicking noise is normal, then I'll also take that as good advice to leave alone for the time being. Still learning.

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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2016 6:14 pm 
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Yes, I really wouldn't worry. The owner of a well-known Geo/Alignment company told me that the gearbox on my S2 was 'shagged' because it swung from side to side when pushed. Funnily enough it worked perfectly well then and continues to work perfectly well 7 years and 60,000 miles later.

If the CV's start to show symptoms that you can experience while driving the car then think about doing something about them. In the meantime, find another cold beer (you have some in the fridge, right?) and enjoy it in the evening sunshine.


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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2016 7:08 pm 
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Sounds pretty normal, but maybe a bit low on grease to me? CV specific grease isn't expensive and the job is messy but not difficult... First axle took me half a day, second axle took an evening once I knew what I was doing including getting it on and off the car.

There are guides on YouTube etc, but basically take them apart, thoroughly clean, put back together and re-grease. I believe you are supposed to make sure everything is put back in the same alignment... I tried, not 100% sure I succeeded on that one.

Mine were clicking horribly, on a visual inspection you can see where wear and damage is. Mine had been left without grease for far too long and had a decent bit of wear. I figured I'd reverse the axles so that the main load goes through the un-worn side of the joint - getting in for 1000 miles with no issues. Not saying you'll need to do it, but worth looking at if you're on a budget!

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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2016 8:59 pm 
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Gryphon wrote:
Sounds pretty normal, but maybe a bit low on grease to me? CV specific grease isn't expensive and the job is messy but not difficult... First axle took me half a day, second axle took an evening once I knew what I was doing including getting it on and off the car.

There are guides on YouTube etc, but basically take them apart, thoroughly clean, put back together and re-grease. I believe you are supposed to make sure everything is put back in the same alignment... I tried, not 100% sure I succeeded on that one.

Mine were clicking horribly, on a visual inspection you can see where wear and damage is. Mine had been left without grease for far too long and had a decent bit of wear. I figured I'd reverse the axles so that the main load goes through the un-worn side of the joint - getting in for 1000 miles with no issues. Not saying you'll need to do it, but worth looking at if you're on a budget!

Yes and yes!

Take apart and clean is a HUGELY messy job but worthwhile (although I hasten to add that I don't think that Briggy needs to do this - or anything!) You'll get foul grey grease everywhere - over the floor, walls, ceiling, wife, cat, in your hair, you name it ... CV grease is Molybdenum Disulphide grease, sometimes called Moly Grease, and very cheap. The most important thing when putting them back together is to massage all the air out of the CV boots as if you have an air pocket in one of them then the aid goes to the middle (i.e. around the joint) and the grease goes to the outside and you have no lubricant where you need it.

Gryphon is right - to reverse the load on the joints you need to swap the axles from one side of the car to the other. Swapping them outer-for-inner makes no difference - the drive continues on the same faces. (Think about it with a diagram on a piece of paper if you don't believe me.) Doing this can extend the life of the joints already on the car.


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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2016 5:42 pm 
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Gryphon - yes, saw the guide for regreasing, which was my original plan. Going to put it on hold after what Oli said.

Oli - do nothing to the car, then have a beer. Done and doing.

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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 1:37 pm 
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zcacogp wrote:
They will always move from side-to-side - the job they perform means they have to be able to do this. And slightly clicking when they do so is to be expected.

I'd leave them as they are, keep the money in your bank account and stop worrying. And if you really want to spend £200 then send it to me as I'll be able to help.


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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 3:39 pm 
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briggy wrote:
Oli - do nothing to the car, then have a beer. Done and doing.

Good lad. Have one for me too while you're there .... :)

(Personal gripe; people who insist on 'doing things to their car' when there is nothing wrong. If a problem exhibits no symptoms, cannot be detected in normal (or even extreme) operation of the car and is not attributable to either a service schedule or preventative maintenance then it probably isn't a problem. This rule isn't universal but holds true more often than it doesn't!)


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Oli, I'm with you on your personal gripe. Here's the thing, Chris did his stuff with the geo, then I asked him if knew what was causing certain other issues. He not only knew, but was able to demonstrate. He then passed the comment about the "slop" in the CV joint. It pays to take advice from experts, but I'm also happy to take further advice from you and other forum members who may have more detailed knowledge of that particular issue.

My day to day job is an IT Consultant. I often see performance reports for databases and people show me the Top 5 events that the database is doing, then ask how to eliminate the issues. Often, the "issue" is a low level description of the database working properly. People say "but it's spending 90% of its time doing blah". Well of course it is, what do you think it should be doing?

Anyway, getting off topic a bit now. I like your suggestion for beer some much, I'm about to spend another evening with some more cold ones instead of under a car or covered in moly grease. Cheers!

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