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firstly it depends on wether i fit a 951 ic, or something larger/different.

secondly, tbh i think its more hassle messing about cutting old panels out of one car, and putting them into another, when i can just fabricate some custom mounts very easily from scratch. i have a 951 shell next to this one, but i dont really want to cut the bits from it as its a good shell.

i would prefer to fabricate my own mounts, which will make removal/refit of the ic and rad setup easier, plus custom fabrication is what i do and so i may aswell do it my own way!

need a rad and intercooler to offer up, then i can think of the best way i want to attack it.

panels from another car is certainly the usual way people do it, but i like to do things differently and it means some custom fab work which keeps me busy!

shell is on the rollover jig now, really impressed with the condition of the shell. not a spec of rust anywhere! there isn't even any corrosion anywhere! best 924/944 shell I have seen, so a very good base for this rework.

also the majority of the engine bay/engine mounts/front chassis rails are all seam welded

ordered a 951 intercooler, and an aluminium radiator last night so once they turn up can fit the front end up.

I have a feeling that this project is going to be rather impressive!

High budget GTS rally build http://www.944sverige.com/forum/viewtop ... =1&t=26326 to wet your appetite

awsome stuff!

Nick, these are probably the best panels that youre going to find:

937 rear arches: http://teilecar.com/?220,kotflugelverbr ... carrera-gt

944/937 front wings: http://teilecar.com/?80,kotflugel-mit-l ... e-944-944s

937 bonnet scoop: http://teilecar.com/?105,lufteinlasshut ... era-gt-gts

Unfortunately Marek doesn't offer a 937 front panel yet, so don't put the die grinder away too soon...

GT Racing (https://www.gt-racing.com/products-page ... 951-parts/) offer everything that youre looking for and more. They could even panel-up the semi-spaceframed 931 racer that's just been posted, but unfortunately theyre in Florida, their prices are excessive, their CS is shocking, their stuff doesnt fit, and their 'European importer' is a comedian with speculative euros for dollars prices who offers comically expensive shipping from Holland... They can sell you factory GTR rear arches though...


Simon

cheers for that info! will look into it all. have spoken to gt racing in the past, they seem to have lots of nice stuff, but shipping these parts from usa can be a bit of a joke cost wise!

Mareks quality/fit is far better and the prices are lower than GT Racings. Youll have to buy a 937 front from Pro-9 (my choice: Club Auto Sport also make one but its dearer) though, and spend a day trying to make it fit.

ok mate thanks. will consider of all that information before buying anything

removed the fuel tank, and started offering a few things up on the rear end to see how things fit together

I wanted to offer up the ally rear arms from my 944 turbo (abs). these would give the car approx. 50mm wider track at the rear, and also give bolt on option for brembo brakes and larger discs.

my concern was mating wider track arms up to the g31 gearbox.

I offered the trailing arms up, and placed the gearbox on its mounts. I then offered up the 944 turbo driveshafts to this setup which are much longer than the 931 items. to my surprise they look spot on for length and will bolt up.
the one issue is that the spring plate bolts will not match up to the ally trailing arm holes. I think that should be easily sorted by using spring plates from a 944 turbo to match up. you can see in the pic where it fouls and stops the holes from lining up.

need spring plates to offer up before I decide which arms I will use. the ally items seem to be a bit lighter, and extra track could be useful seeing as im running wide arches, and means I wont have to use any spacers etc. I do want to run wide deep dish wheels though, so I want to ensure the track isn't to wide with the ally arms to be able to run wide rims!

waiting to find out if the ally trailing arms on marks 924 race project are abs offsets? if so then they will be perfect as I would like to run similar width and dish wheels. 50mm track is quite a large difference!







any1 got any spring plates lying about from 944 turbo or similar I can offer up?

thanks
nick

Can you post up or pm me a pic of the pipework on top of the fuel tank please. At the height of the Summer I had fuel coming through or around a vent pipe which drops down between the back of the tank and back of the wheel well. Could be venting. Could be a split pipe?

GTR rear end for comparison. May help, may not

will sort u a pic in the morn.

slight step back in progress. now im keeping this car and developing it, as a rollcage fabricator, i am not happy with the quality of the rollcage in the car. i don't know what material has been used, it doesn't fit very well with the tubes above my head quite close, and the welding is pretty shocking. so its all been cut out.

i will be fabricating and installing a full lightweight t45 cage to my own specs so i know the shell is spot on, and and i know the cage is built to the highest standards.

here u can see the roof diagonal is very low, and also does not intersect into the main hoop/rear leg junction in the correct place. the main hoop diagonal is also in the wrong place where it intersects.
the tube is also all far to large at 50mm diameter. all in all it fits like crap, weldings crap, and it weighs a ton.



on top of that, im not quite sure who taught whoever installed this cage how to weld. but i have seen better looking bird shits!




compared to the tubes i welded in

Nick, its the same part in every non-M030 car, from 1986MY 944s and 924Ss to and including 1989 944s. The rear trailing arm is identical.

so is the only difference early and late offset arms? as early cars must have shorter arms to allow for the lower et offsets. non abs versions? or is it all in the hub?


there is 50mm difference in width when comparing my 924 turbo arms, and the arms i offered up from 1986 abs 944 turbo.

All in the hub. You can check for yourself by looking at the PET catalogue for the 924S, and the 88 and 91 944s.