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 Post subject: Re: 944 values
PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:35 pm 
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I know about the ninemeister setup but personally I'd rather put £5k towards a setup with stronger rods and lower comp pistons.


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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:47 pm 
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Nonsense. My car has had 13 owners :shock: But when you consider it's age & the fact that it's had 12K spent on it in the last 4 years. Not so bad I think. The last guy kept it just 12 months. Spent 3K & only did 1500 miles. Sold due to divorce. It has a complete service record from year dot. But only the latest is relevent.


Spending 12k on it was more of a nonsense.[/quote]

Agreed. But I didn't spend 12K on it. :) These are under rated cars as so few are in good condition. The point I am trying to make is if you have 12 owners who each spend 1K on the car then how is that an inferior car to one with one owner who spent less. (Or the same.)
Nothing wrong with TVR's either if you find a good one. Good luck to you what ever you end up with. :)

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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 7:41 pm 
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I know about the ninemeister setup but personally I'd rather put £5k towards a setup with stronger rods and lower comp pistons.

Not sure why, the rods are good enough for around the 360BHP mark as is the standard engine, it's only going beyond this that you need to start changing things.
I'm looking at 8PSI boost with a standard engine & intercooling, should be good for around 300-320BHP.

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I know about the ninemeister setup but personally I'd rather put £5k towards a setup with stronger rods and lower comp pistons.

Not sure why, the rods are good enough for around the 360BHP mark as is the standard engine, it's only going beyond this that you need to start changing things.
I'm looking at 8PSI boost with a standard engine & intercooling, should be good for around 300-320BHP.


What's the comp ratio in your engine ?. What engine management are you going to use, what injectors, which radiator, which head gasket, which fuel pump, I think you are heading for detonation issues, but they're your pistons.


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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:54 pm 
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pauly wrote:
I know about the ninemeister setup but personally I'd rather put £5k towards a setup with stronger rods and lower comp pistons.

Not sure why, the rods are good enough for around the 360BHP mark as is the standard engine, it's only going beyond this that you need to start changing things.
I'm looking at 8PSI boost with a standard engine & intercooling, should be good for around 300-320BHP.


What's the comp ratio in your engine ?. What engine management are you going to use, what injectors, which radiator, which head gasket, which fuel pump, I think you are heading for detonation issues, but they're your pistons.

Comp will be 10.3:1, management will be either Megasquirt or Emerald, injectors probably either standard or maybe Turbo. Rad will be a new S2 & probably a Turbo intercooler, but bespoke ones are around the same money & better. Head gasket probably standard as will be fuel pump.
Don't forget this is a supercharger, not a Turbo so different animal.

Detonation problems I doubt it, the spreadsheets I've written don't show it at this conservative level of boost <8PSI & 9Meister are running their basic blown car on all standard 968 bits. But you obviously know better :mrgreen:

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:) Had some experience of forced induction fitting and tuning, 9m do know more than me no doubt, and apparently so do you. Good luck. :lol:


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:) Had some experience of forced induction fitting and tuning, 9m do know more than me no doubt, and apparently so do you. Good luck. :lol:


This is more the kind of c0ck-swinging argument that belongs on pistonheads :roll: . Please keep your posts polite on this forum. We're all friends here to some degree.


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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:40 am 
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pauly wrote:
:) Had some experience of forced induction fitting and tuning, 9m do know more than me no doubt, and apparently so do you. Good luck. :lol:


This is more the kind of c0ck-swinging argument that belongs on pistonheads :roll: . Please keep your posts polite on this forum. We're all friends here to some degree.


I didn't think it was hence the smilies. But if I've offended anyone then I take it back :P

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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:28 am 
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tr7v8 wrote:
Li Moo Bai wrote:
pauly wrote:
:) Had some experience of forced induction fitting and tuning, 9m do know more than me no doubt, and apparently so do you. Good luck. :lol:


This is more the kind of c0ck-swinging argument that belongs on pistonheads :roll: . Please keep your posts polite on this forum. We're all friends here to some degree.


I didn't think it was hence the smilies. But if I've offended anyone then I take it back :P


Wasn't aimed at you Jim..

ETA: although I can see you taking the bait which will only drag it out!


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This is more the kind of c0ck-swinging argument that belongs on pistonheads :roll: . Please keep your posts polite on this forum. We're all friends here to some degree.[/quote]


And this is polite ?, off to pistonheads where the audience is less precious, :o .


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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 11:25 am 
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This is more the kind of c0ck-swinging argument that belongs on pistonheads :roll: . Please keep your posts polite on this forum. We're all friends here to some degree.



And this is polite ?, off to pistonheads where the audience is less precious, :o .[/quote]

Whatever. I was trying to nip this in the bud before it turned into one of those protracted 'I know more that yewww' threads, which frankly just have no place here and are just plain sad.
My post above was not intended to cause offence and you are welcome as anyone else to join in as long as you're not going to stir up arguments for the sake of it.
I hope that makes my point explicit. Now let's get back to discussing 944 values eh? :)


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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 1:15 pm 
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This is more the kind of c0ck-swinging argument that belongs on pistonheads :roll: . Please keep your posts polite on this forum. We're all friends here to some degree.[/quote]

I didn't think it was hence the smilies. But if I've offended anyone then I take it back :P[/quote]

Wasn't aimed at you Jim..

ETA: although I can see you taking the bait which will only drag it out![/quote]
Take the bait Moi? Never :mrgreen:

Lets move on guys & leave this line alone OK!

Otherwise I'll use the moderator bit & start removing bits :twisted:

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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 10:05 pm 
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Jim,
Off topic but regarding the megasquirt option, I have my microsquirt wired to a dme socket ready to plug in my n/a.
Am looking at using a turbo intake manifold to use the tps which are sat in my shed but not sure if power will be lost as the turbo intake is smaller in diameter than the n/a .
But the turbo intake also frees up space for a supercharger possibly maybe if i can keep on top of general 944 running.
Really could do with a wideband lambda but new clutch and S2 gearbox emptied the piggybank somewhat.

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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 10:27 pm 
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Jim,
Off topic but regarding the megasquirt option, I have my microsquirt wired to a dme socket ready to plug in my n/a.
Am looking at using a turbo intake manifold to use the tps which are sat in my shed but not sure if power will be lost as the turbo intake is smaller in diameter than the n/a .
But the turbo intake also frees up space for a supercharger possibly maybe if i can keep on top of general 944 running.
Really could do with a wideband lambda but new clutch and S2 gearbox emptied the piggybank somewhat.

It is very tight but I reckon I can just get it all in with the standard S2 inlet. To either cut & shut the S2 manifold or section that and a turbo one looks to be a lot of work & if I can get away with it then great.

TBH I'm not sure on the Megasquirt, I'm both a died in the wool fiddler & also have an electronics training so it quite appeals but I think I want to be driving rather than tinkering, so it may end up being an Emerald.

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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 10:55 pm 
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Good point on the driving verses tinkering, but I cant drive much at the moment so plenty of time to tinker. I also have an electronics/electrical background.
I followed the guys build on the pelican parts forum its pretty staightforward,
My only real worry is tuning the thing

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