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 Post subject: Porsche for Kids
PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:29 pm 
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Seats:

Is this the seat I need for the 911 997?
http://www.design911.com/PORSCHE-JUNIOR-SEAT/prod422/

There are Recaro variants here...
http://www.porscheshop.co.uk/acatalog/p ... seats.html

My daughter is currently 8 months old, would like to get the best seat that can be used for a long time, if that is also the best option...


Toys:

My baby deserves a Porsche herself, to coincide with my impending purchase...

I have seen these:
http://www.porscheshop.co.uk/acatalog/p ... #a1_213903

- Baby Porsche Buggy, orange £80
- 918 pedal car, green £99 (but it's not a pedal version??)
I would rather buy the red 911 pedal car but that is from ages 3+...

Do you know of any better cars please? Or other toys?

Many thanks, and Merry Xmas.


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 Post subject: Re: Porsche for Kids
PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 8:14 pm 
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Porsche car seats

Maxi Cosi Cabriofix
Age: 0-9 months (can go up to 12/15 months)
Type: Coupe or Cabriolet

This is actually a very good seat that I already have, being used in our regular cars, with the EasyFix base (rear facing seat position) on either IsoFix or seat belts.  The EasyFix is not ideal for the 911, hence the route of the seatbelt method as portrayed perfectly below:

Barry Ashcroft wrote:
Here is our Maxicosi Pebble it fits fully flat and still have room for the wife in the front.
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Installation demo video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb08gStD ... ata_player

Which.co.uk rating: 70% (family fix base) 2010, 58% (belted) 2007, 82% (EasyFix) 2007
Pros: Excellent front crash protection, easy to fit in the car, good finish quality, and base can be used with the group one Pearl seat once the child outgrows the Cabriofix
Cons: Poor side crash protection when secured using the adult seat belt, seat cover is hand wash only

http://www.which.co.uk/baby-and-child/b ... z1hTWwbJx4 


My child is now on the next stage, so need a seat 9 months +

The Maxi-Cosi website lists out which seats fit in particular cars, which I ran for the 911...
http://www.maxi-cosi.com/Service/Car-fitting.aspx


Maxi Cosi Tobi
Age: 9 months - 4 years
Type: Coupe or Cabriolet

The Tobi is listed in the Porsche fitment
http://www.maxi-cosi.com/products/car-s ... /tobi.aspx

Paul O wrote:
I have just bought the Maxi Cosi Tobi seat for the rear of my 997 Cabriolet. Removing the lower seat bit makes it fit much better.

Only downside is limited legroom. We can't use it for a good few months yet so will report back next year with pics and experience!

I wasn't expecting it to be THiS hard to get a flippin' seat!!





BeSafe iZi Comfort X3
Age: 9 months - 4 years
Type: Coupe

Shewie wrote:
I have the Mamas & Papas Pro-tec in my 996 C4S. It fits a treat, especially with the seat backrest removed (10 minute job) although it does sit quite high so not sure how successful it would be in a cab. Secondhand off eBay is now probably the only place to get the original Pro-Tec as it is now discontinued, however I think the seat itself was manufactured by BeSafe in Norway and rebranded "Mamas & Papas" in the UK. 

Although not widely available I believe you can still get them under the name "BeSafe IZI Comfort X3". As far as I know this is exactly the same seat as the Pro-tec just sold under a different name. the website contains a list of UK stockists

This is a link to the seat on the BeSafe website:- http://www.hts.no/uk/products/izicomfort.php


Which.co.uk rating: 66% (isofix) / 61% (belted) 2011 results
Pros: Excellent side crash protection, good front crash protection, easy to use, good finish quality
Cons: Good crash protection but misses the Best Buy grade overall, bulky and heavy

http://www.which.co.uk/baby-and-child/b ... z1hSmTliBA 


Mama's & Papa's Protec
Age: 9 months - 4 years
Type: Coupe

Strafford wrote:
I've just bought a Mamas & Papas Pro-Tec seat - it's Group 1, forward facing, so suitable for 9kg-18kg, and fits perfectly in the back of my 997 Carrera S Coupe.

Despite initially being told unhelpfully by Mamas and Papas in Watford that 'none of their car seats would fit that car', Mamas and Papas in Cheshunt were much better and their car seat expert was very happy with the way it fitted. The seat belt routing is different on the Pro-Tec to others I've looked at and suits the siting of the belts in the 997 well.

The seat is sitting directly onto the floor carpet, by removing the leather pad that forms the 'cushion' of the rear seat (it is velcroed in and just pulls upwards to come out)

I'm much relieved to have found a good seat (much better than the Porsche ones as far as my daughter's comfort is concened), from a reputable brand, and hence confirmed that the 997 is indeed the 'ideal family car' I'd told my wife it was !


jayboy7 wrote:
thanks everyone looked back at all the threads and we have managed to get mama & papas protech which fits perfect!!im gona send the recaro back shame as it looked the part but just didnt fit securely!we will be out tomorow as a family the first trip in the 997!!looking foward to sharing the fun...more exiting than the range rover..


Are the current Protec SA-ATS models the same fitment?
http://www.mamasandpapas.com/range/pro- ... s%20ISOFIX

Which.co.uk rating: 69% (isofix) 2008
Pros: Very stable, good head support, easy to install
Cons: Instructions and safety advice is quite brief

http://www.which.co.uk/baby-and-child/b ... z1hSyh9tTV 


The Britax range seems to be good too, with their website detailing measurements of each seat:
http://www.britax.co.uk/car-seats/car-seats


Britax Evolva 1-2-3
Age: 9 months - 12 years
Type: Coupe

markbs wrote:
I went through a lot of searching a couple of months ago for my newly acquired 996 C2. I went to our local independent specialist and tried from a short list of 5 (price wasn't important). The only one I was satisfied with was the Britax Evolva 123. It fits our almost 2 year old well and didn't involve any mods or seat removal. I put down a leather seat protector before they strapped it in for me. My wife sits infront of him and we all fit well. I obv take his shoes off before he gets in as I'm keen to keep the interior immaculate.

Found it online:
http://www.paulstride.co.uk/group-1-2-3 ... 751607.php


The Evolva Plus is an upgraded model with extra comfort, in the same dimensions:
http://www.britax.co.uk/car-seats/car-s ... 1-2-3-plus


Britax 2-Way Elite
Age: 9 months - 4 years
Type: Coupe or Cabriolet

uktrailmonster wrote:
Finally sorted!!  
I went to this specialist child-seat fitter in Milton Keynes http://www.incarsafetycentre.co.uk which was recommended among a few other places around the country by an industry expert who posted on an earlier thread.

They had obviously been through this scenario before and straight away recommended the Britax Two-Way Elite.  It fits like a glove without having to remove either the seat-back or base and belt tensioning is simple and very effective.  Plenty of room left for the front seat too.  Not exactly cheap at nearly £200 but it looks like a quality product.

For anyone interested, here's a link to the actual seat.  Apparently it's a Scandinavian import not normally sold in the UK because it can be fitted both front or rear facing (a legal requirement for Swedish toddlers I'm told).  Obviously I've fitted it forward facing in the back of the 996!

Also briefly tried the Britax Evolva 1-2-3, but contrary to the above post it didn't appear to fit in my 996 C2?  Although we didn't spend very long trying as the other seat fitted so well.

http://www.incarsafetycentre.co.uk/cata ... ucts_id/46


Demo installation video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brT5J2fJ ... ata_player


Britax Duo Plus
Age: 9 months - 4 years
Type: Coupe or Cabriolet

njm500 wrote:
Hi there, I went for the britax duo plus for my 997 c4s cab. Great seat. Really compact but very secure. It has isofix or seat belt securing. I have used it in the front passenger seat with isofix for my 2 yr old daughter or back seat. Both work really well.

I have a 997 c4s cab and have had the Britax Duo Plus for past 18months. Is excellent. Plus I have isofix in the front seat also. So have choice of isofix in the front or seat belt in the rear. 

FYI - Britax duo fix is also the same as latest Porsche Child Seat rebadged by Porsche

I got my local OPEC to fit official isofix to passenger front seat + switch for turning airbag off etc.... 

Car Seat was about £130 when i bought it online. 
The isofix kit fitted was £240 inc VAT from OPC Guildford, the key switch is located end of the dash where the passenger door closes and they fit a airbag deactivated light in the centre dash


The new 2012 colours have come out at £200+, but the older versions are still available slightly cheaper at Amazon

Which.co.uk rating: 70% (isofix) 2007
Pros: Excellent crash performance as an Isofix seat, good all round ease of use
Cons: Doesn't make the Best Buy grade as a belted seat, seat cover must be hand-washed

http://www.which.co.uk/baby-and-child/b ... z1hTGTbBM3 


Nania Trio Plus
Age: 9 months - 4 years
Type: Coupe or Cabriolet

Reviews from Asda customers:
http://reviews.asda.com/1440-en_gb/0026 ... eviews.htm

Its no longer available, officially, but Kiddies Kingdom selling some on eBay (but not there official site)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-Nania-Tri ... 2587wt_689
Or from herefor cheaper.

Barry Ashcroft wrote:
This is a Nania Trio Plus for when he's 9months plus

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References:

PistonHeads 1

PistonHeads 2

911uk.com


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