944 Buyers Guide

[tr7v8]

The 944 buyers guide I wrote for Gaydon 2009. It also touches the 924 & 968.

[J.J.]

Couldn't that be added to the recent stickys? Pretty good Jim.

[oh.feck]

That's a great overview for the 944 but I'm afraid there are some inaccuracies for the 924. Firstly the cambelt isn't as crucial as it is a non interference engine. Also there is no mention of the S which as we all know is fitted with the 2.5 engine as in the 944. Being much lighter and more aerodynamic, the 924S is a quicker car than the 2.5 944! Also, whilst the 924 n/a 2.0 engine shares some parts in common with the Audi 100, it is not an Audi 100 derived engine!
Sorry to be so picky but I feel I must defend the honour of the 924 which is much derided in some circles but is worthy of accurate description!

[tr7v8]

That's a great overview for the 944 but I'm afraid there are some inaccuracies for the 924. Firstly the cambelt isn't as crucial as it is a non interference engine. Also there is no mention of the S which as we all know is fitted with the 2.5 engine as in the 944. Being much lighter and more aerodynamic, the 924S is a quicker car than the 2.5 944! Also, whilst the 924 n/a 2.0 engine shares some parts in common with the Audi 100, it is not an Audi 100 derived engine!
Sorry to be so picky but I feel I must defend the honour of the 924 which is much derided in some circles but is worthy of accurate description!

Firstly the guide is predominately 944 I only cover some of the differences for the 924 & 968 as such as history & positioning. Some areas are very common.
So I mention that the cambelt needs doing, criticality isn't mentioned but I'd still do it on a new bought car if only not to be stuck at the side of the road on a wet & rainy night!

The first page says:-
"The 924 introduced in late 1975, is a 2 litre (125 BHP) car using a block from an Audi 100 & tweaks by Porsche. A Turbo version was also available."

Is it not an Audi 100/ VW LT block then? I thought it was & still do, this is one of the reasons the build of the 924 stopped because VW stopped making the engine, thus giving no cores for Porsche.

Is not the next line a "Mention"of the 924S? I think you should've gone to Specsavers.
"The 924S is the same narrow bodied car with the 2.5 litre (150 or 163BHP) 944 Engine."

God damn touchy these VW van powered Porsche owners are

[944 Man]

Volksvagen still use a development of the original OHV DKW engine (so its a Mercedes funded/developed DKW engine then, not a VW van engine and it came to VAG through Auto Union who owned DKW when VW bought them). AUDI converted it to OHC and Porsche then altered further, with a different cylinder head, fuel injection and a forged steel crankshaft. VW did use a version of the AUDI engine later in an LT, but to claim that the 924 used a 'VW van engine' is completely untrue and belongs with 'poor mans Porsche' wisdom (coined by the unimaginative for the 912, then the 914, then the 912E again, then the 924, then the Boxster...).

Simon

[944 Man]

I can spell Volkswagen btw... Also: the 924S is not faster than a 944, with the exception of the relatively rare 1988 model, whichll certainly give the equivalent 2.5litre 944 a run for its money.


edited to correct a further Volkswagen spelling error!

[TonySpektr]

Hi there.
File seems to be corrupt?

T

[tr7v8]

Hi there.
File seems to be corrupt?

T

Sorry now fixed

[Red Rider]

This thread needs to be a sticky.....

[tr7v8]

This thread needs to be a sticky.....

Should be, unless the glue has melted. I'll 'ave a look.

[Red Rider]

Thanks Jim. Saves keeps searching for it...

[Mike968]

I liked the line: "The 968 was a development of the 968..."

That shouldn't have taken them very long then!

It's easy to criticise... Good work, Jim!

[Mike968]

I can spell Volkswagen btw...

Ah - but can you pronounce it correctly...?

The V is soft, like an F; and the W is hard, like a V...

Edit: Oh, and the A is long; and don't drop the L... FoLx-Vaaagen

[Mike968]

The first page says:-
"The 924 introduced in late 1975, is a 2 litre (125 BHP) car using a block from an Audi 100 & tweaks by Porsche. A Turbo version was also available."

Is it not an Audi 100/ VW LT block then? I thought it was & still do...

Correct.

The block started out as an overhead-valve unit designed by Audi (when still independent) for the 100 saloon.

After VW took over Audi, and took over the rights to the engine, they turned it into an overhead-cam diesel ( ) engine and consigned it to the LT van ( ). The camshaft adjuster arrangement was particulatly neat and, of course, the strengthened bottom end to cope with rough diesel runnning was significant for the next stage of the development, when:

Porsche redesigned the cylinder head for the 924 (or Audi Sports Car, as it would have been at the time...) for Bosch CIS fuel injection, keeping the VW bottom end and camshaft design (essentially).

A convoluted history of a much over-looked engine...

[Rafeabrook]

Couldn't open this for some reason folks?