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| Author: | EL Gordo [ Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | off to work AGAIN |
any RMN's out there need a job? I am having to go in again today as all my staff nurses have the lurgy, I could do with a break ! had a death (sudden and unexpected so coroner etc)thursday, all sorts of crap on friday and would dearly like a day off, also you lot pay me hugeeeee amounts to work Saturdays from your taxes. 
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| Author: | Paul Mabley [ Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: off to work AGAIN |
dekandgord wrote: had a death (sudden and unexpected so coroner etc)thursday You've done bloody well to get back into work so quickly then 
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| Author: | EL Gordo [ Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: off to work AGAIN |
oh yes ! even a dead nurse is usefull these days, I was going to get one of our project managers to come in and cover the shift but I cant for 2 reasons 1 they dont do weekends 2 they know bugger all about how and why a hospital exists, have no practical value, do not know what a patient looks like, can only count numbers on bits of paper and then tel me why "strategically we are fully staffed", they would not be able to say things like "singing from the same hymn sheet" in a meaningfull yet pointless way as this is not how patients speak (unless they are really crackers), and in the main they are are a bunch of tossers with no practical value who earn a lot of money for bugger all. Other than that they are quite usefull, honest. |
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| Author: | Brett928S2 [ Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: off to work AGAIN |
dekandgord wrote: oh yes ! even a dead nurse is usefull these days, I was going to get one of our project managers to come in and cover the shift but I cant for 2 reasons 1 they dont do weekends 2 they know bugger all about how and why a hospital exists, have no practical value, do not know what a patient looks like, can only count numbers on bits of paper and then tel me why "strategically we are fully staffed", they would not be able to say things like "singing from the same hymn sheet" in a meaningfull yet pointless way as this is not how patients speak (unless they are really crackers), and in the main they are are a bunch of tossers with no practical value who earn a lot of money for bugger all. Other than that they are quite usefull, honest. Hi  Sounds like you need to be one of the above....you already know the phrases and would get more money for it I assume ? All the best Brett
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| Author: | EL Gordo [ Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: off to work AGAIN |
oh i would undoubtedly be paid more, wouldnt get to do the job I love though. one of the reasons often given for the pay of nurses is "oh they chose the vocation and it is a reward in itself" and I agree I did and it is, dont see how that can be a reason to pay so badly though? At the moment we have one patient approaching final days, we get hit on regular basis, sress levels are through the roof but we carry on doing it, io get a reasonable amount but the average wage for a nursing assistant is 12 grand-14 grand BEFORE tax for the work they do that is just plain wrong, a staff nurse would get circa 18 grand BEFORE tax, the responsibility that staff nurses carry is huge they are dealing with peoples lives and 18k pre tax is a pittance. |
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| Author: | EL Gordo [ Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: off to work AGAIN |
ok moan over, I have just found out that another ward has 2 (yes 2!!!) qualified nurses on duty, so I have comandeered one of them and swapped a mental health siupport worker across, which means i can stay at home with the kids whilst Dek is at work. 
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| Author: | Paul Mabley [ Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: off to work AGAIN |
dekandgord wrote: nursing assistant is 12 grand-14 grand BEFORE tax for the work they do that is just plain wrong, a staff nurse would get circa 18 grand BEFORE tax, Holy sh1t, didn't think there were any jobs like that any more
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| Author: | EL Gordo [ Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: off to work AGAIN |
they are all in nursing mate, the girls you see who arent qualified all struggle to live, they could all earn more at tesco, if they all upped and went the nhs would fal apart. I cant even send them for training as we are low on staff, so they feel undervalued and underpaid. |
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| Author: | fury964 [ Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: off to work AGAIN |
dekandgord wrote: they are all in nursing mate, the girls you see who arent qualified all struggle to live, they could all earn more at tesco, if they all upped and went the nhs would fal apart. I cant even send them for training as we are low on staff, so they feel undervalued and underpaid. It's just wrong. You can fully understand why so many leave to go into 'private healthcare'. |
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| Author: | fury964 [ Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: off to work AGAIN |
dekandgord wrote: oh yes ! even a dead nurse is usefull these days, I was going to get one of our project managers to come in and cover the shift but I cant for 2 reasons 1 they dont do weekends 2 they know bugger all about how and why a hospital exists, have no practical value, do not know what a patient looks like, can only count numbers on bits of paper and then tel me why "strategically we are fully staffed", they would not be able to say things like "singing from the same hymn sheet" in a meaningfull yet pointless way as this is not how patients speak (unless they are really crackers), and in the main they are are a bunch of tossers with no practical value who earn a lot of money for bugger all. Other than that they are quite usefull, honest. Easy, I'm one of them PM thingies.  
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| Author: | EL Gordo [ Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: off to work AGAIN |
for the NHS??????
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| Author: | seg1959 [ Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: off to work AGAIN |
dekandgord wrote: they are all in nursing mate, the girls you see who arent qualified all struggle to live, they could all earn more at tesco, if they all upped and went the nhs would fal apart. I cant even send them for training as we are low on staff, so they feel undervalued and underpaid. They ARE undervalued and underpaid. My wife is a midwife ward co-ordinator in one of the flagship London hospitals and I know. Long hours, very little job satisfaction now-a-days, shit salary. It's just wrong. seg |
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| Author: | fury964 [ Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: off to work AGAIN |
dekandgord wrote: for the NHS?????? No fortunately. I work for a company that provides medical equipment for Radiotherapy. |
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| Author: | EL Gordo [ Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: off to work AGAIN |
I bet you actually manage projects? i know of one instance where we employed a project manager and when she was asked what project she was to manage she had no idea and said words to the effect that they were going to make one for her !!!!!!!! didn't even have a basic outline, plan, nowt, nada. They just employed her !!!!! |
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| Author: | fury964 [ Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: off to work AGAIN |
That's endemic of the NHS though. Throw money at it and it will all be alright. Unfortunately they through it at the wrong things. |
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