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| Author: | Pink piggy [ Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Speed |
News from Denmark… The Danes have just released results of a 2 year study on two way rural roads, where they increased the speed limit from 80 km/h to 90 km/h. In the study, accidents on the roads tested reduced. On sections of motorway where the speed limit was raised from 110 to 130 km/h nine years ago, fatalities have also decreased. What the Danish road directorate discovered was that the traffic that had been traveling below the speed limit sped up a bit, and those who previously broke the speed limit were less tempted to break the 90km/h one. To begin with, the Danish police were not keen on the idea... Erik Mather, a senior Danish Police Traffic officer, said: "The police were perhaps a little biased on this issue, but we have had to completely change our view now the experiment has been trialled for two years." There is other evidence that not treating drivers like automatons who should blindly obey signs works in terms of safety. In European cities where all "road furniture" and signage has been removed in urban areas, drivers have been found to automatically slow down when they can see pedestrians, cyclists and children may be sharing the same space as them. I think what’s obvious from the Danish experiment is that if you remove frustration from a driver’s immediate experience, they will drive more considerately. Time for a higher speed limit on the UK's roads? All I know is that down here in Hampshire we have a stretch of road called Whichers gate and the speed limit is 30 because there have been some accidents, however these crashes were caused by vehicles going way faster than 30. The road should be a 40. Then in Horndean we have a busy road that should be a 30 ............but its a 60 however I know of no accidents here. |
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| Author: | Paul Mabley [ Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Speed |
The age old debate, sounds like the Danes have seen the light! Apparently our proposed lift of motorway speed limits to 80mph was scrapped when they realised that most females were opposed to it and the policy was realised as a vote looser! Don't think they asked my wife 
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| Author: | Sean Smallman [ Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Speed |
It all sounds very logical and good that the reality has been proven. It's a shame our Ministers have ducked out of the 80mph limit. Which is probably the average most travel at anyway. Even plod gets over taken at above 70 these days
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| Author: | garyw [ Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Speed |
The removal of street signage and shared space has already happened in Coventry- so far numerous accidents and I believe a death. Whilst drivers seem to slow down it seems the pedestrians seem to see it as even easier targets.. I think the raising of speed limits could indeed work for UK motorways during the week- but weekends!! crikey that's another matter! |
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| Author: | Martin & Kim 6853 [ Thu Mar 20, 2014 7:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Speed |
Am not going to comment on the removing of signage in towns yet but will make comment on European motorways, have just done circa 1000 Kim's around Denmark & Sweden at speeds generally slightly higher than the speed limit!! But keeping up with other traffic where there was traffic. Two observations when comparing with uk motorways, first there is a big difference in traffic volumes and secondly the standard of lane discipline and overall standards are much higher than here. Obviously am in favour of increasing the speed limits here, but let's not forget the high number of muppets and to****s on our roads that think they can drive! then let's put them in a town with no road signs 
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| Author: | AML911 [ Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Speed |
I sometimes feel the strain when driving (particularly in cities) from the visual bombardment due to the plethora of road signs, parking signs, advertising signs and at night stray and distracting lighting  As far as raising speed limits on motorways, perhaps if we were to adopt the lane awareness /discipline used by drivers in the States, then might we be able to safely overtake in any lane ..... this would maximise usage of road space and consequently obviate the need for higher limits? |
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| Author: | RichardKS [ Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Speed |
Lorries should be restricted to lane one of UK motorways. End of. Sure fire way of easing congestion. Driver's who are clueless about lane discipline should be booked. End of. Lane three should be kept clear for those who choose to dabble with the speed limit. End of... ooops, shouldn't have typed that last comment. 
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| Author: | garyw [ Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Speed |
RichardKS wrote: Lorries should be restricted to lane one of UK motorways. I'd usually agree but having been to Germany a few times and watching some people trying to gain and exit motorways via a train of lorries has it's downsides..! 
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| Author: | RichardKS [ Mon Mar 24, 2014 6:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Speed |
garyw wrote: RichardKS wrote: Lorries should be restricted to lane one of UK motorways. I'd usually agree but having been to Germany a few times and watching some people trying to gain and exit motorways via a train of lorries has it's downsides..! As long as they're not tailgating each other. .. |
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| Author: | 944-Scott [ Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Speed |
RichardKS wrote: garyw wrote: RichardKS wrote: Lorries should be restricted to lane one of UK motorways. I'd usually agree but having been to Germany a few times and watching some people trying to gain and exit motorways via a train of lorries has it's downsides..! As long as they're not tailgating each other. .. Hmmm think A14 sometimes its hard to even read the signs because of the amount of lorries. Friday on the A12 I witnessed four lorries occupying/blocking both lanes trying to overtake each other for 7 miles  
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