Speed Limit

Andrew · **Posted:** Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:41 pm

Quote:

Speed limit could reach 80mph

The UK Transport Secretary, Philip Hammond, has proposed to increase the speed limit on UK motorways from 70- to 80mph.

The idea behind the change is to reduce journey times, as the Government believes that the economy could be improved if motorists spend less time behind the wheel.

Mr. Hammond said that safety might not be the only factor to consider when it comes to judging how fast cars travel on the roads.

Speaking to the 'Daily Telegraph', he said: "We need to do this on a pretty rigorous cost-benefit basis. At the moment there are a clear set of criteria for making these decisions. Perhaps we ought to ask if we are using the right set of criteria."

Motorway speed limits in the UK are significantly lower than those in other European countries. The maximum speed on similar roads in France and Italy is 81mph. In Spain, Portugal and Ireland it is 75mph.

The UK's 70mph motorway speed limit was introduced in 1965, following a series of reports of manufacturers and car owners testing high performance cars to their limits.

There were 132 deaths on UK motorways in 2009, which is the last year for which figures are available. However, motorists are more likely to experience an accident on town and country roads with lower speed limits, poorer visibility, less space and no division between oncoming traffic.

Jack Carfrae

So who is to pay for the new Speed Signs? the Tax payer yet again!!

poprock · **Posted:** Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:26 pm

Actually, I can’t see that there would be a need for new signs. You don’t see fixed speed limit signs on the Motorway, do you?

The only costs should be a public awareness campaign and some Police equipment recalibration.

Graham Waller · **Posted:** Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:31 pm

No need for signs.

All they need to do is ensure the "National Speed Limit" is even more diverse than it is now. I understand that this is for M-ways only, so dual carriageways will remain at 70 (lower for artics), singles will remain at 60 and town/country fixed limits won't change.
The "National" speed limit on M-ways will go to 80 unless otherwise informed by gantry signs.

JW590 · **Posted:** Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:32 pm

They have reduced the speed limit through parts of our village from 40mph to 30mph. The Speedwatch team will be out in force soon to ensure the villagers (and passers-through) get the message.

Still, I won't get caught.... I am the Speedwatch team :twisted:

Graham Waller · **Posted:** Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:38 pm

Tri-Man wrote:

They have reduced the speed limit through parts of our village from 40mph to 30mph. The Speedwatch team will be out in force soon to ensure the villagers (and passers-through) get the message.

Still, I won't get caught.... I am the Speedwatch team :twisted:

If you see a red 911SC........... :lol:

Alfie · **Posted:** Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:58 pm

I don't think it will happen.

I attended an advanced driving course last year in Manchester and the final session was conducted by a chief traffic cop. One of the students brought the 70-80 increase speed limit into discussion and the cop's reply was a 100% no-goer. He reckoned it will never ever happen.

Perhaps my driving licence would be clean if the motorway speed limit was 80mph

Alfie · **Posted:** Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:19 pm

PS: I also learnt that a road fatality (that's one person - one fatality) costs the tax payer a staggering £1M.

Yes, I know what you're thinking.... WHAT?

But it's true.

Don't vote Conservative, or Labour or Lib Dem... Vote them all out. Get rid of the hipocritical, ripping off b*******s.

And one thing which amazes me... NOBODY does anything about it. We just sit back and let the w*****s rip us off.

I'm creating a forum/blog web site and will be circulating an intro email to the nation :wink:

fullchat · **Posted:** Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:14 am

It's absolutely vital for the national economy for people in fast cars to be allowed to drive above 70mph. Many of these people have a "winner's" mentality and driving faster than anyone else reminds them of this. Also, these cars represent a reward for success so not allowing people to drive them fast reduces the incentive for profit-building enterprise. Some people, mainly successful types, have to drive fast - it's part of their personality so restricting them will only antagonise them. Speed also equals success, which we all want to share. In all, faster motorways mean greater national wealth and success. In fact we need more motorways, higher speed limits (or none at all), faster cars and more success, higher profits (leading to faster cars), more motorways - new modern, fast motorways, fresh, modern fast motorways, more cars, success, speed, profits, winning, suits, money, flash, fast, cars, outside lane, quicker, me not you, power, my power, my money, flash with money, fast flash car. Me. Me, faster. Fast.

Now where did I leave my keys to the 924 :wink:

fullchat · **Posted:** Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:21 am

I do apologise for my previous outburst, don't know what came over me!

It seems that it's not just the British who are thinking about revising their speed limits!

http://www.andalusia-travel.com/174/201 ... it-en.html

Makes you think

Pastry · **Posted:** Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:04 am

fullchat wrote:

It's absolutely vital for the national economy for people in fast cars to be allowed to drive above 70mph. Many of these people have a "winner's" mentality and driving faster than anyone else reminds them of this. Also, these cars represent a reward for success so not allowing people to drive them fast reduces the incentive for profit-building enterprise. Some people, mainly successful types, have to drive fast - it's part of their personality so restricting them will only antagonise them. Speed also equals success, which we all want to share. In all, faster motorways mean greater national wealth and success. In fact we need more motorways, higher speed limits (or none at all), faster cars and more success, higher profits (leading to faster cars), more motorways - new modern, fast motorways, fresh, modern fast motorways, more cars, success, speed, profits, winning, suits, money, flash, fast, cars, outside lane, quicker, me not you, power, my power, my money, flash with money, fast flash car. Me. Me, faster. Fast.

Now where did I leave my keys to the 924 :wink:

reminded me of this; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRsSeP-2NGU

I've mixed feelings about making it 80 as i'm trying to drive slower on the motorway these days

Ah who am i kidding let me rive 15% faster and i'll pat the 30% extra fuel bill in a blink :oops:

poprock · **Posted:** Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:27 pm

Alfie wrote:

PS: I also learnt that a road fatality (that's one person - one fatality) costs the tax payer a staggering £1M.

Part of this is the investigation afterwards, legal costs, etc. The £1M figure is an average, some will cost a lot less, some a lot more. Every road fatality in the UK requires a full forensic investigation and report, regardless of cause or outcome. ’Tis the law.

Alfie · **Posted:** Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:32 pm

Yes poprock, I understand the full investigation, but £1M?

It's like the pelican crossing installation (6 years ago) down the road from my parent's house - £174,000.00. ! !

One of their neighbours demanded a breakdown costing from the local council. The council's representitive was interviewed; he claimed the design alone cost £15k... (like it's the only one in the country!!) He went on to explain the crossing took 4 men 3 days to install. Oh... and the equipment/materials - 2 poles with flashing lights, dropped kerbs on both sides, making good, thermoplastic road paint and electricity application. There were no high relief flag stones and no sensors. And to top that; the council's rep had a smerky grin on his face when being interviewed. As if to say "Yes, we are ripping you off, but what are you going to do about it?"

The PEOPLE of this country are being shafted left right and centre. It's a total disgrace to the respect of British people!

The government (all British governments) and 'The Establishment' are shafting the British people!

Is it no wonder...

poprock · **Posted:** Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:46 am

Our local PCGB region recently had an evening with the local traffic incident investigation team. I can say that they do their job incredibly efficiently and with the minimum off fuss & waste. The cost per investigation and follow up is entirely justified.

What’s debatable is whether every fatality needs to be investigated in full … and that’s a whole different argument. When you have ten witnesses and camera footage of exactly what happened, but a £1M investigation still gets carried out anyway … maybe that’s somewhere we could be making a cost saving, y’know?

J.J. · **Posted:** Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:17 pm

Given the number of cars that come past you at 100+ I think a speed limit would be a good idea. The M62 was closed following an accident last night for 2 hours from the M60 to Liverpool. Cost me 2 hours. What I'm saying is if you have a speed limit it should be enforced or why bother. I prefer driving to the conditions rather than a set limit as 40 can be too fast in thick fog or when theres severe congestion. At 2 in the morning on a quiet motorway in good weather 100 can be safe. In the right car.

Porsche Enthusiasts Club Forum

Speed Limit

Who is online