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 Post subject: Re: Anyone an RAC Member
PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:20 am 
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I think there is an argument to reduce the number of older, regularly driven vehicles on the road as in general they are not well maintained and emission friendly. However most "classic" cars do not tend to be driven 15-20K miles per year day in day out and in general are more regularly maintained, so I would presume the total emission impact would be less than that of say a diesel Mondeo doing +20K per year.

Last rant what about the local transport system I know where I live the school buses are well over 20 years old.


David, the problem is this is sensational soundbites, so the general public won't think about "It's a well loved classic car" They'll think & classify them all as old bangers. I had the same response from the unwashed when I had the TR7, rebuilt from the ground up at a cost of circa £18K but I still had some refer to it as an old banger. The amount of people on general motoring websites that associates old with unreliable is amazing, the TR7 broke down twice in 7 years, the Porsche never & the 944 did 38K in 18 months as my daily work driver.
As for emission impact I don't believe it! A 944 in good nick will do circa 33MPG, the same style of sports car today will be doing the same or less. One of the reasons why will be it will considerably heavier. CO2 = fuel burnt so I don't accept the common bilge of more modern equals lower emissions. :evil:

Yup old buses, coaches & taxis are very poor & around our way the school buses are archaic. Also did you know most modern buses have there emissions gear removed & only have it replaced for MOTs? The reason being a modern bus or coach does around 4-5mpg with it on & 6-7 with it off! Think of the cost of diesel for a fleet & that's a huge saving.

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On top of which, there are 2/3rds of all Porsches built still on the road. Surely it is better to run a supposedly less-efficient, older vehicle than to scrap it (where's it all going to go?) and use further natural resources building a replacement motor??

Even if the replacement is second hand and newer, whoever is selling that is replacing theirs and follow the chain back, you will come across a brand new car that has been sold (and therefore manufactured) where it need not have been.

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On top of which, there are 2/3rds of all Porsches built still on the road. Surely it is better to run a supposedly less-efficient, older vehicle than to scrap it (where's it all going to go?) and use further natural resources building a replacement motor??

Even if the replacement is second hand and newer, whoever is selling that is replacing theirs and follow the chain back, you will come across a brand new car that has been sold (and therefore manufactured) where it need not have been.

Quite Graham, I feel an article for AT coming on, drags up soap box..... :mrgreen:

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Graham Waller wrote:
Jim -

On top of which, there are 2/3rds of all Porsches built still on the road. Surely it is better to run a supposedly less-efficient, older vehicle than to scrap it (where's it all going to go?) and use further natural resources building a replacement motor??

Even if the replacement is second hand and newer, whoever is selling that is replacing theirs and follow the chain back, you will come across a brand new car that has been sold (and therefore manufactured) where it need not have been.

Quite Graham, I feel an article for AT coming on, drags up soap box..... :mrgreen:


Addressing the readership of AT, then I think you're gonna need a bloody big bar of soap :lol:

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Spoke to my mate who works for the RAC (roadside) and he was well against the idea... "Hell No- we'd have less work!!"

Please seperate the two companies..

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Spoke to my mate who works for the RAC (roadside) and he was well against the idea... "Hell No- we'd have less work!!"

Please seperate the two companies..

garyw

Sorry it maybe a different group but why then call it "RAC"? Because most people associate it with the motoring organisation, Yes?

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