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And knowing the answer validates his questions how, exactly?

Quite a statement from a 928 owner. Pretty uncalled for as well! Having only just survived a high speed accident on a bike I can think of several reasons not to ride one. Really don't understand why the word "Nitrous" is a red rag to a bull to some folk. It was good enough to put on fighter planes in WWII (To give them an unfair advantage.) Its far cheaper & more effective than supercharging or turbo charging & actually works pretty well in conjunction with the latter. It's also great fun which is what these cars are about. Is this the have a go at Brett thread???

to NXI20,i was mearly asking the question....

i own a 928 and have no interest in other porsche models.

but i still like smilies

Who drives what car is irrelevant as is who has what car, what is in question is the wild claim and statement that this will be a 2000bhp system and be the most powerful Nitrous road or race car in UK, My request is simple Prove it either on a dyno at crank or rear wheels, specification of car and systems

If nitrous works is not in question, if it a viable tuning aid is not in question, what is in question is how much nitrous will a stock engine and gearbox take and how much has this car already used? The facts of the 1000bhp install to date prove it cant flow more than 250 bhp of nitrous so again how is this a 1000 bhp install

Brett never said he will be using say 150 bhp to aid his top speed or ¼ mile times he made a statement that he will have the most powerful road or race nitrous car in uk, fair enough Prove it, the real facts are he will have solenoids fitted that can flow 2000 bhp just everything before and after them either will not or will not be able to use even a fraction of that

Dose anyone really believe you can increase the output 5 ½ times of a stock engine just buy fitting high flow solenoids in engine bay lots of switches and a progressive controller and that’s all you need to do?

The car apparently has the ability to run 1000 bhp, but its limited to 250bhp and always has been, would not the 4k be better of spent on installing all the other systems needed on car to run this amount of nitrous, Fuel system, ignition, engine modifications, gearbox, suspension, Iv seen people spent 2k just on pipe work and fittings for a fuel and nitrous system

So with all the important parts not fitted or missing from install why just fit double the capacity solenoids and then revos on top that you will almost certainly have to limit power out put using jets and controller back to 250bhp or the rest of the install will limit usage to 250 bhp, either way it will not be a 2000bhp car

So all it is a sales pitch and showcase for lots of shiny parts in engine bay, when a basic 250bhp system would do same job

Hi

Which Porsche do you own ???????????????????????????

None obviously............

All the best Brett

I've had my fair share of motorcycle accidents the last of which saw me incapicatated for 7 months, but bang for buck you can't really beat them, you need to spend an awful lot of money on 4 wheels to come anyehere near to matching the performance of even a modern 600. They're a bit like a pedal cycle or horse, if you fall off you dust yourself down and get back on them.

The word nitrous isn't a red rag to a bull and nor is it a Brett bashing thread. I personally think it's perfectly reasonable to ask somebody to back up such a bold claim, irrespective of whether that person owns a Porsche or a BMW Isetta bubble car.

Making a claim is one thing but backing it up is another and a churlish - Which Porsche do you own ??????????????????????????? doesn't exactly doing anything to validate being able to claim your car develops 2000hp.

Hi All

Just about to leave for Doncaster for my 2000 hp install at Wizards of Nos , so wont be on the Forum until Thurs or Friday....when I will post the install pictures, and my impressions of the system.

All the best Brett

Hears an interesting read for you all

http://www.safespeed.org.uk/forum/viewt ... 13&t=20001

Seams brett already holds the 1/4 mile record with a high 12 , and that his 1000bhp was only using 150bhp

Hmmm and seams he is best M8s with the Makers of his kit , which explains alot

Well I leave it up to you to make up your own minds

If anyone wants to see the car, I will be helping out at the local PCGB Annual family day and Concours at Lulworth Castle (Dorset) on Sunday.

when I will post the install pictures

Are we suppose to assume that if we looked at the car and stared at the pictures long enough any doubts we had would disappear? Save me from growing a beard and drawing my pension watching and waiting I'll just look at the dyno chart when it's posted.

How many makers/installers of Nos are there in the UK? It is not something I am thinking of buying, just wondering? Is there a better maker/installer you would recommend?

Looks like its done now and after 3-4K its flow tested on nitrous side only at 700bhp max for whole system on now 2 stages,and Revos used inconjunction with jetted saftey solonids, cool so its lost 300bhp, please note this is just what the solenoids can flow and not what has been tested on a dyno at rear wheels they are just theoretical BHP flow rates, I look forward to details on these flow tests if they were at point of injection using both stages or just 1 or if just at outlet of solenoid, Interesting that’s its all still on stock fuel pump, pipes and rails, Hmmm that’s impressive if not a tad unbelievable , What is a stock FI 928 pump rating per litre/hour ? And if take offs are on fuel rail and that’s still stock, now that will be interesting, but I am sure we will have a fantastic write up even if all the maths don’t add up, dose it work it may well do on small BHP shots, as the nitrous its using will almost certainly be restricted buy jets or controller, is it even a 1000bhp car def not, were any of the upgrades needed to run 200 BHP of nitrous NOPE and dose prove 1 point the 1000 BHP claim was also all based on solenoid size only and not system as a whole, Most powerful Nitrous car in UK as I said prove it

Hi everyone,

My name is Trevor Langfield and I'm the MD of Highpower nitrous systems often referred to as the Wizard of NOS.

Before I go any further I'd like to make a few points clear for anyone who doubts my intentions here;

1) I'm not here to promote my products - why would I need to with Brett as a customer?

2) I'm not here to stand up for Brett - he's man enough to do that himself

3) The only reasons I'm here are i) because Brett has informed me that one of the posters on this thread/forum is potentially making libellous statements (which I'm sure the owner of this forum wouldn't want to be held responsible for, so I thought it only fair to bring his attention to the matter before it gets to that), ii) the posts in question have a striking similarity to those posted on my own forum by a member using another name, who has recently taken to making negative posts there and if they prove to be from the same person, he will be banned from my forum without further question, iii) if it is the same person then he's basically stalking Brett across the Internet and as I've had the same treatment by a similarly demented individual for the past 10 years, I think it right and proper to expose this person here, if indeed that proves to be the case in this instance. iv) I like to make sure that any incorrect comments made about my products are set straight for those who are unfortunate enough to be induced to read and believe them, v) I like to support good customers who have been good enough to support me as Brett has done for many years.

I'm going to leave my first post there and I'll return ASAP with a full response dealing with all the matters listed in 3 above but in the meantime I think the owner of this forum should be informed of the posts made by 911cool, so he can make his own decision about whether or not he leaves them on his forum.

BTW just a bit of friendly advice to everyone posting on open forums on the Internet; if you think 'free' speech means you can lie about a company you need to see a litigation solicitor quickly, especially if you think you can hide behind the supposed anonymity you may incorrectly believe your computer provides. My legal representatives have already tracked down and taken legal action against a number of people who incorrectly thought that and obtained substantial out of court settlements as a consequence, so I'm talking from experience.

Back soon.

Trevor Langfield

Well, here we are then! I think its about time we , as a group take the decision to draw a veil over this thread and indeed any similar concerning this product and the individuals concerned, from what I hear the 'membership' as a whole is heartily sick and tired of all this nonsense.

IANAL, but I can't see any libel here. 911cool is working in the dark & making assumptions (and possibly making 2+2=5) because Brett has chosen (as he so often does) to be coy & not reveal any details about his new NOS system. This lack of candour and the attempted diversionary tactics naturally makes some people suspicious. The sooner Trevor Langfield (who understandably seems keen to defend his company's reputation) &/or Brett can provide such details, the sooner the wilder excesses of this thread will be calmed. Or maybe not...

Posting about stalking on the internet & invoking the lawyers just makes you sound paranoid. C'mon guys, if you have the figures to back up the claims, put them out there so that the world can judge.

Hi All

Later today I will start a fresh thread for 928 owners who ARE interested in what I have done mechanically to my 928...as I have had several private emails supporting me in this, I think they deserve this.

If Tipec decide to delete this thread (for legal reasons) I would like the other thread to survive, therefore I will NOT put anything controversial in it...it will mostly be a picture thread...of the "process" of the install which covers three days of engine work.

In case anyone has any doubt....I do NOT work for Highpower Systems/Wizards of Nos , to the contrary, I pay a large amount of money for all my parts etc from them and am happy to do so.

I am a voluntary unpaid Moderator on the Wizards forum and have been for years, that is my only link with them apart from being an extremely happy customer .

On a personal note I think the Tipec moderators decision to not ban "911COOL" at the start of this thread was a mistake as it was obvious he was NOT a Porsche owner and his sole intention was to deride me and run down WON products and Trevor Langfield.

Trevor is an extremely unusual man in that as the MD of his companies he answers ALL technical queries on his forum personally and is a man of honour, he never lies or breaks his word.

This will be my last post in this thread and as it will probably be deleted I will obviously keep a copy of it ......

Hopefully anyone interested in the TECHNICAL side of my new Nitrous install will appreciate the new thread...

All the best Brett