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Detailed D.I.Y 944 fuel lines guide?
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Author:  jinxster [ Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Detailed D.I.Y 944 fuel lines guide?
Hi, has any got a detailed guide for me to do my 1986 944 fuel lines and where I can get what I need?
I don't mind spending good money on quality items but Porsche now want about £500 just for the hard lines?!?! It's pipe... it's just pipe!!!
It would be great if we could all stick to one formula that works. Looks like the times are coming to improvise to keep our prides and joy running affordably :(
Author:  blackadder30 [ Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Detailed D.I.Y 944 fuel lines guide?
I did an extensive review on the forum last year when I did the fuel 968 lines. The words are all there but Photobucket has screwed the threads up a touch with losing the photos but they still on Photobucket.

I got my hard lines from OPC and they weren't that much for the two lines. I did also need replacement clips and a flexi line from filter to hard line but that was all still less than £200...

I spoke to some local guys in Chorley at the Event City show last weekend. Very knowledgable and genuine. They're convinced they can make some cupronickel fuel lines with the correct ID and fittings for much less. They're called Brakequip. Website is http://www.brakequip.co.uk

Good luck :D

EDIT - found the thread :) http://forums.tipec.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=21004&hilit=Fuel+lines
Author:  jinxster [ Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:38 pm ]
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Thats great :) porscheshop have a 4 piece set for £600!! this really can't be justified.
Author:  Waylander [ Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:15 pm ]
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Go check with your porsche dealer OPC

they will tell you how much porsche shop are sticking on the top
Author:  jinxster [ Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Detailed D.I.Y 944 fuel lines guide?
Yeah, worth a quick call.... are they ever quick though..
Author:  Waylander [ Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:06 am ]
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Give steve mathiot a call at east London , he loves his 944's
Author:  PSH [ Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:25 am ]
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I did mine about 12 years ago using all genuine Porsche parts, be prepared for a long job, you'll need to drop the transaxle, if using genuine one-piece lines you'll need height too, a ramp being the best option. Do contact main dealer before anywhere else, in some cases, you'll pay less than for used items on eBay. Regarding viewing Photobucket images, there has been some enterprising folk who have written code to sidestep this outfits blocking of images, not sure how it will last? There are certainly fixes for users of Chrome and Firefox, just do a search for 'Photobucket image fix' for your chosen browser.

Pete
Author:  jinxster [ Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Detailed D.I.Y 944 fuel lines guide?
Well.... phoned up OPC today just to get a real sense of the numbers which they broke down to the individual prices, my next question was how much for every item to renew the complete fuel line from front to back, the answer was.... just over £900... plus I was informed 2 items are now unavailable... WOW!
Author:  Waylander [ Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:52 pm ]
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Yup

Porsche have worked out that one day we won't be able to repair them anymore, so they want to tear your arms off right now
Author:  Endoman [ Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:28 am ]
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Dropping the torsion tube is not for the faint hearted so the easy fix is to run flexy over the tube and join with compression fittings. If I was doing it again I would use custom Kunifer. A full run of flexy is a problem because the hose to body clamps would need modifying for the thicker pipe.
Author:  brian94411 [ Sat Sep 23, 2017 2:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Detailed D.I.Y 944 fuel lines guide?
Hi
I fitted a full flex kit from RPM a few years back. Was £300 all in
Replaced all the support clips. Fitting was straight forward. Good plece of kit.
Had no issues since.
Brian
Author:  jinxster [ Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Detailed D.I.Y 944 fuel lines guide?
Some nice advice coming in, this is only going to get a more covered subject as parts start running out, Arnnworxs advises but doesn't really want to do a kit as most people knocking up kits are worried about lawsuits, Porsche will usually say aftermarket parts/work are not advised...
Author:  Waylander [ Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:12 pm ]
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I have been checking out the prices of the pipe, straighteners, flare tool and bending tool, think after the first one or two attempts I'm pretty sure you could make a reasonable job of them and produce sets for others for less than £200

You would need to make and sell about 10 sets to break even including your time in the calculation
Author:  edh [ Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:53 pm ]
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My garage is going to do them for me - he reckons he can run them up from kunifer pipe (he's also re-furbing the rear axle & doing the clutch)

he builds racecars so is quite handy with "custom" jobs - just waiting for his "project ramp" to be available.
Author:  996driver [ Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:28 pm ]
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I recently did the lines on my 944. Originally was meant to be getting lines made up instead of the Porsche ones but there was a problem with the ones supplied (they were for the 16v and I have 8v car) and the part I needed was no longer available. I looked into making them from pipe and it's really not that hard. This blog post outlines it

http://porsche911owner.blogspot.co.uk/2 ... ement.html

But get some 8mm and 10mm kunifer lines and a pipe bender. Probably a good idea to shape the line with copper brake pipe first so you get the rough shape and then do the real thing. I found it easier to get a garage to flare it to get the best fit. You need some standing fittings for the line which can be bought in many places.

There are still some Porsche bits you need but it's very much reduced and the main cost of the 4 hard lines is then cut out saving probably £500.
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