944 Man wrote:
I think that Bilstein are FAR better now.
+1 for Bilstein B6 on my S2 too - they are great
Rob
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| Author: | marks2ply [ Mon Jan 26, 2015 5:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Replacement Suspension options for 944s2 |
Hi all Its a slow progression of jobs on my car, I am thinking down the line a little with this one, what would you say is a good option for a decent suspension overhaul. I would like to say I am not made of money. I will be operating the spanners to save costs. As fitted looks standard. A few questions would I be able to overhaul the top mounts on the front. Are my springs on the front re-useable.? They look okay. Are koni inserts a good option for the front? I was looking at boge standard dampers on the rear, are those okay? Any suggestions warmly welcomed. regards Mark |
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| Author: | Waylander [ Mon Jan 26, 2015 5:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Replacement Suspension options for 944s2 |
Top mounts are not owner serviceable, and what ever you fit on the front same on the back or you compromise the handling. Konis are a good option cut and shut inserts, everything else lowers the car by about 30mm Springs are ok to use again Original equipment from OPC will set you back close to a grand and most of the stock is years old already Spax is a popular option |
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| Author: | AlpineTurbo [ Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:40 pm ] |
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IMO I would go with:] 1) Konis - they are good VFM, and generally do things quite well. 2) OPC - On the assumption that you are getting newish items. Maybe I have been unlucky but on my previous daily drivers there has been a gulf of a difference between 'OE' branded suspension and what you get from the dealers, both in terms of longevity and performance (I did 230k in one car, so saw my share of action in it (it went through 2 or three spring and damper combos) and 100k in another, again the same kind of car). The names included Boge, Monroe and Bilstein B4s. I'd have recommended B6s (IMO they are better than the Konis) and are a true upgrade (Monotube dampers bring many benefits ; my 205 (again on OE dampers that were 3-4 years old) went from being a lift off oversteer deathtrap at low speed to being very playful on the limit when I went over to B6s). However, I understand that fitting them to an S2 is not a simple task unless you (or the mechanic fitting them) are quite brave. |
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| Author: | 944-Scott [ Tue Jan 27, 2015 11:30 pm ] |
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Given their age it wouldn't hurt to refresh the springs also. |
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| Author: | Waylander [ Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:17 am ] |
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Front springs are about £180 from OPC |
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| Author: | 944 Man [ Wed Jan 28, 2015 11:58 pm ] |
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Id prefer Bilstein dampers over Koni, but you need threaded struts so that's either Boge, or a modification to your own. |
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| Author: | AlpineTurbo [ Thu Jan 29, 2015 9:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Replacement Suspension options for 944s2 |
I'd agree with Waylander on the Springs. Almost every aftermarket spring I have bought has settled down lower than stock and approaching lowered. A car of mine had genuine springs up front fitted 50k before pattern items were fitted on the back (I think the rears were Boge or Sachs). You can guess what stance the car had 30k down the line and it was not a nose down stance or a level one! |
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| Author: | Waylander [ Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Replacement Suspension options for 944s2 |
The other thing to take into consideration is all aftermarket shocks will be 20% stiffer or more than the stock items Might upset your ride quality And do not mix brands of shocks |
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| Author: | marks2ply [ Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Replacement Suspension options for 944s2 |
Thanks for all the advice guys. I am thinking koni inserts front with opc springs and matching with koni rears. What do you all think. What about top mounts can any third party refurb these items. Finally do I need to get all the above set up by a third party and at what cost? thanks for the sage advice. Mark |
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| Author: | 944 Man [ Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Replacement Suspension options for 944s2 |
I think that Bilstein are FAR better now. |
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| Author: | Waylander [ Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Replacement Suspension options for 944s2 |
Top mounts cannot be refurbed with any success, the bearings are a real odd size so you would need to make inserts for the bearings, they are pressed in and then crimped New ones are not cheap, when I asked about new ones for my 968 they were £308.00 per side! Solid adjustable maybe they only solution in the future |
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| Author: | robmal [ Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Replacement Suspension options for 944s2 |
944 Man wrote: I think that Bilstein are FAR better now. +1 for Bilstein B6 on my S2 too - they are great Rob |
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| Author: | flt505 [ Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:42 pm ] |
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Hi Mark - I replaced my original worn out suspension on my S2 with Koni Sports front and rear. The fronts are just an insert replacement into the original shock tube and easy to fit. The front and rear are adjustable (soft, medium, hard) - mine are set at medium (no track work) but you can dial in the front with the Koni supplied key (works via the top mounting). I also replaced the original front springs with lowered (25mm) Konis. Yes, Koni make lowered springs for the S2 - and they are brand new! Don't forget to replace the bump-stops and the weather shields - these maybe expensive from OPC but I got mine from the States... Also the front roll bar (sway bar) bushes I had replaced at the same time - worth doing as knackered ones do influence the suspension/handling. I went with the standard rubber bushes. Hope your project goes well! Dave CT SA |
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| Author: | kongsodoken [ Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:08 pm ] |
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There is a guy on ebay.de that sells refurbished top mounts, about £130 for the pair removing the bearing is hard, I scraped one mount doing mine, I made a insert for the bearing which worked well |
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| Author: | Waylander [ Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:01 pm ] |
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These will do for getting the threaded part for the B6 conversion http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=191499122685 |
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