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 Post subject: Standalone engine management ?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 3:11 pm 
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I was considering a Rogue MAF kit and injectors but supply seems a bit sporadic, so is anyone running a proven standalone MAP/MAF setup supplied from within the UK that doesn't cost several thousands or take hours on a dyno to fire it up ?


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:41 pm 
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pauly wrote:
I was considering a Rogue MAF kit and injectors but supply seems a bit sporadic, so is anyone running a proven standalone MAP/MAF setup supplied from within the UK that doesn't cost several thousands or take hours on a dyno to fire it up ?

I know you said I the UK but as you were looking at Rogue, what about their new replacement, mappable ecu rather than the maf kit.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 5:45 pm 
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augtronic is probably best on an 8v car due to the twin crank sensors (aftermarket ecu's will not understand) unless you fit a new crank wheel / sensor arrangement.
the 16v cars use a more common 60-2 crank wheel with a single sensor which any ecu will be able to compute. im not aware of many cars using a non standard ecu though.


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gn3dr wrote:
pauly wrote:
I was considering a Rogue MAF kit and injectors but supply seems a bit sporadic, so is anyone running a proven standalone MAP/MAF setup supplied from within the UK that doesn't cost several thousands or take hours on a dyno to fire it up ?

I know you said I the UK but as you were looking at Rogue, what about their new replacement, mappable ecu rather than the maf kit.


I think the Rogue ECU is a modernised replacement for the standard DME ? Combine that with his MAF kit/injectors and UK import duty/VAT and I think it's basic standalone money, plus using the original 23+ year old wiring loom. Plus it's not his main job so supply seems hit or miss.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 6:15 pm 
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LarJammer wrote:
augtronic is probably best on an 8v car due to the twin crank sensors (aftermarket ecu's will not understand) unless you fit a new crank wheel / sensor arrangement.
the 16v cars use a more common 60-2 crank wheel with a single sensor which any ecu will be able to compute. im not aware of many cars using a non standard ecu though.


It's still an unknown quantity to me.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 6:25 pm 
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Paul u just need to go with barks. Best bet is UK based customer service unless u can use the software your self and are happy to run the risk

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 6:58 pm 
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I have to agree to go with Tom Barks ECU. Fitted and worked straight off on my 3lt turbo build using the base map. Also very helpfull.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:34 pm 
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As another very happy customer of Augment automotive I would highly recommend them.
I don't think you could go wrong.
Also If you talk to Tom he is very helpful and has lots of very interesting features up and coming.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:43 pm 
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OK, think I'll wait and see how it develops.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:56 am 
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I am keeping an eye on lacedr's 951 which is running Emerald management. On other cars I have seen good results with such a setup :). Of course it is not quite the plug and play solution that Rogue tuning and Augtronic are (if I am honest I am tempted to go with the latter).

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It all depends on if you can do your own tuning. With barks you can get support via wifi. Do you want aftermarket pods and gauges or just an app that's displays every on your mobile?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:11 pm 
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I want gauges, to me a phone is for talking to people.


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pauly wrote:
I want gauges, to me a phone is for talking to people.


That made me laugh! I have 2 lovely gauges in my former cubby residence and very nice they look too! A nice white AFR gauge with digital and analogue readings and a lovely white VDO boost gauge. I like the contrasts to the dash dials and it reminds any passengers they are in a mildly fettled vehicle!

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G pulling should be more then apparent. Gauges are just more expensive

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scam75 wrote:
pauly wrote:
I want gauges, to me a phone is for talking to people.


That made me laugh! I have 2 lovely gauges in my former cubby residence and very nice they look too! A nice white AFR gauge with digital and analogue readings and a lovely white VDO boost gauge. I like the contrasts to the dash dials and it reminds any passengers they are in a mildly fettled vehicle!

Stuart


Same here, a white Innovate AFR gauge and a white VDO boost gauge, thinking about an oil temp gauge to fill the last space :). I don't want to receive a text telling me my engine just went bang :lol: .


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