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 Post subject: Re: 924 4 stud > 944 5 stud conversion
PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 12:49 pm 
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lo41 schwarz 924 wrote:
Still confused

Wish people were talking to me, im beating my head against a wall


I wonder why

http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t ... sc&start=0

http://theoc.forumotion.com/you-and-you ... 066-15.htm

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 Post subject: Re: 924 4 stud > 944 5 stud conversion
PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 4:39 pm 
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I now have the following parts. I bought the master cylinder from the same 944 the calipers came from.
I found out stepped means, it has 2 bores of different diameters. So i decided i needed the m/c.
bargain at £27.00

I went on a junk yard challenge today and very pleased to have the front hubs from an 83 944. Complete units with knuckle joint
good hub bearing, back plate and vented disc. for £50 pair bargain.

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I cant wait to get this s together. A modification that should increase the cars value. what you see is what i have.

This braking system is known as m471 disc brake package utilises 911 front brakes with 928 rear brakes

the 928s rear brakes are the same as a 924 n.a front brakes. I did think if i could just use my front calipers and put them on the rear instead.
But it prob wont work.

There still a lot more junk to gather. Let me know if you can put some of it my way.


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 Post subject: Re: 924 4 stud > 944 5 stud conversion
PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:16 pm 
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Ive just been looking into replacing the hard brake lines. You can buy rolls of tubing on ebay, which you bend to shape. If you bend it by hand it will kink.
So special tube bending pliers are used to maintain the shape during bend.

bend flair etc tools are sold in a kit. It looks pretty easy to work with.

I was underneath my 924 today looking at the brake lines. It looks pretty simple at the front, but at the back axel
the brake lines go above the suspension and back down, looks a bit awkward. Id hate to discover the rear suspension
fuel tank or transmission has to be lowered to install the new lines. So id appreciate anyone telling me.

Does anyone know what size diameter tubing ill need i think its 3/16


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 Post subject: Re: 924 4 stud > 944 5 stud conversion
PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:36 pm 
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Well even without any help from any of the members here (thanks to that turbo charged prat)
i still managed to make excellent progress. Let me educate you.

I discovered the 924 Turbo has X diagonal braking just like my 924 n/a Even though it has all round discs.
its able to utilize the diagonal sysem as it does not have the wide body offset wheels of the 944.

944's have to have front/rear tt split brakes! As it wud be unstable if 1 circuit failed in a diagonal x system on the 944s wide suspension geometry

However a 924 narrow body is stable with both diagonal and front/rear systems. Late 924S has front/rear as standard.

Im using the 944 brake calipers from a 944 with stepped master cylinder.
The 944 m/c has too size bores - to ensure the front calipers create more braking force than the rear.

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The rear brakes are connected to the narrower bore of the cylinder on the left. Id like to know if the cylinder can be removed from its original booster shown here, and bolted onto my exsisting brake booster? this would make things easier.

Obviously 5 stud brakes mean i need to find some 5 stud wheels. But using 944 alloys with set offset 7j rim, will stick out from the 924 narrow body. Meaning the GT kit will be needed. I prefer the narrow body. So im looking for 6j wheels from the 924s which will fit within the body. I find teledials a bit obvious. I want to get the cookie wheels but i dont know if there made 6J?


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 Post subject: Re: 924 4 stud > 944 5 stud conversion
PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:22 pm 
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lo41 schwarz 924 wrote:


This braking system is known as m471 disc brake package utilises 911 front brakes with 928 rear brakes

the 928s rear brakes are the same as a 924 n.a front brakes. I did think if i could just use my front calipers and put them on the rear instead.
But it prob wont work.

There still a lot more junk to gather. Let me know if you can put some of it my way.


Why not just do like someone said at the beginning and buy the drive train from a 924S or early 944, as it mentions in the file below which seems to be where most of your details are coming from.
Attachment:
924 - 5 lug conversion.jpg
924 - 5 lug conversion.jpg [ 162.07 KiB | Viewed 3634 times ]

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 Post subject: Re: 924 4 stud > 944 5 stud conversion
PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:29 pm 
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Thanks for your useless remark. Youve nothing worth posting really have you. Just having a little pop

When did anyone mention a drivetrain conversion? If i wanted to do a drivetrain conversion i would have made the subject of this thread drivetrain conversion. Im doing a 5 stud conversion???


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lo41 schwarz 924 wrote:
Last time i saw a metalic blue in that shade was on an Austin Maestro Vandern Plas!

If i wanted to do a drivetrain conversion i would have made the subject of this thread drivetrain conversion. Im doing a 5 stud conversion.


You correct I made a mistake with drivetrain however the attachment is regarding four lug to five lug conversions and does suggest the best option is to use a 924S or early 944.

In answer to the return comments you almost left but changed before I replied:
1 My car looks like a 944 because it is one, My original mail says nothing about me owning a 924S although I have previously.
2 My car is Titan Grey or slightly darker than Silver near graphite but definitely not light blue, I would blame the .jpg resolution for that. If you wish to compare my car to that late great BL creation then at least get the spelling right!

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lo41 schwarz 924 wrote:
Thanks for your useless remark. Youve nothing worth posting really have you. Just having a little pop

When did anyone mention a drivetrain conversion? If i wanted to do a drivetrain conversion i would have made the subject of this thread drivetrain conversion. Im doing a 5 stud conversion???


"Having a little pop" was not the intention I was stating what seemed to be the easiest option for the conversion, and as it appeared you had already found the website I got the information in the previous attachement from, I had thought you would follow the example. I notice you have now edited your mail a number of times to remove what were quite derogatory remarks, so maybe I shoul ddo like the majority of people on this forum and ignore your posts.

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 Post subject: Re: 924 4 stud > 944 5 stud conversion
PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:18 pm 
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Just gained some useful information.

The 944 uses 7j wheels. If i simply stick on the common as.... 7J x 15 teledials, the'll stick out.

The narrow body le mans solution is to use 6j on the front with 7j on the rear 'design 90s 16"s

quite possiably painted orange. sick.


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