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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:47 pm 
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I'd look at the history, if it had any, if it didn't I wouldn't buy it unless it was really cheap, was yours really cheap ?.

Yup & that's where it gets cunning, no history but Conti N Rated tyres & Porsche oil filter so obviously looked after. However it was a Cat C which I didn't know as the dealers HPI check 3 months previous didn't flag it :( It took 18 months for Saga Insurance to log it! However I had a suspicion that it had been smacked & repaired & when I re-HPI'd it it came up as cat c.
On speaking to it's previous owner I found it'd had a full OPC service history when it was towed away. So my assumptions were correct. Knitting a service history together is quite easy so not entirely foolproof.

I might add that I put 38K on it 18months as my daily driver on it with servicing & clutch slave.

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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 8:16 pm 
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Not sure I agree with you here, if the car has had several owners short term late in it's life it's not likely they have thrown money at it, likewise if someone is selling one shortly after buying it I get curious as to why. If I wasn't planning to keep a car I wouldn't spend thousands on it.[/quote]

Nonsense. My car has had 13 owners :shock: But when you consider it's age & the fact that it's had 12K spent on it in the last 4 years. Not so bad I think. The last guy kept it just 12 months. Spent 3K & only did 1500 miles. Sold due to divorce. It has a complete service record from year dot. But only the latest is relevent.

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Nonsense. My car has had 13 owners :shock: But when you consider it's age & the fact that it's had 12K spent on it in the last 4 years. Not so bad I think. The last guy kept it just 12 months. Spent 3K & only did 1500 miles. Sold due to divorce. It has a complete service record from year dot. But only the latest is relevent.[/quote]

Spending 12k on it was more of a nonsense.


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Yup & that's where it gets cunning, no history but Conti N Rated tyres & Porsche oil filter so obviously looked after. However it was a Cat C which I didn't know as the dealers HPI check 3 months previous didn't flag it :( It took 18 months for Saga Insurance to log it! However I had a suspicion that it had been smacked & repaired & when I re-HPI'd it it came up as cat c.
On speaking to it's previous owner I found it'd had a full OPC service history when it was towed away. So my assumptions were correct. Knitting a service history together is quite easy so not entirely foolproof.

I might add that I put 38K on it 18months as my daily driver on it with servicing & clutch slave.[/quote]

Fair enough, did you get some compo from the HPI people ?.


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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 7:03 am 
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pauly wrote:
Spending 12k on it was more of a nonsense.


A bit harsh, considering that this is a forum for enthusiasts. You shouldn't presume to tell others what to do and what not to do with their cars/money IMHO.


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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 7:54 am 
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Fair enough, did you get some compo from the HPI people ?.


Nope they exclude this from their conditions as it's beyond their control, I have heard of written off cars where the insurance Co. has never informed the system, so you'd never know.
Not something I worry about personally, some get excited about Cat C & D but not me.

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pauly wrote:
Spending 12k on it was more of a nonsense.


You cannot say that, we all get sucked into spending money on restorations & maintenance. My TR7V8 cost the best part of £16K to restore it sold just before Xmas for £5,500. Not clever but I'd had enough fun out of it over that time. :iroc:
My 944 had new sills for it's last MOT, total bill £1,400 (plus other MOT bits like wishbones) so around £1,800 all in, logical no, but I don't smoke & drink very little. So I spend my money where I wish. :twisted:
If you want to bring logic into it then run a brand new base model tin top.
I think I'm beginning to see why you haven't bought a car! :mrgreen:

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I've only had my S2 for 4 months and spent the best part of £2k on it. It's now for sale due to the fact i've been sucked in by Porsche ownership and want a 993.

I can understand why people would be cautious of buying a car that's only been owned for 4 months but in some cases the reasons are genuine. I'm only the 3rd owner on mine but it doesn't change the fact i had to spend money on it.

So in my opinion as long as the car has good history and looks straight and tidy there is no reason to be put off by the length of time the current keeper as owned the vehicle.

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Well people can spend how ever much they like on their cars, it's their money afterall, just like I'm entitled to my opinion, that's all it is an opinion. I haven't bought a car yet because I haven't found one I really want, if that means I never buy one because the ones I see aren't worth the eventual outlay so be it.


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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 11:29 am 
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pauly wrote:
Well people can spend how ever much they like on their cars, it's their money afterall, just like I'm entitled to my opinion, that's all it is an opinion. I haven't bought a car yet because I haven't found one I really want, if that means I never buy one because the ones I see aren't worth the eventual outlay so be it.


Have you thought about a boxster instead?


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pauly wrote:
Well people can spend how ever much they like on their cars, it's their money afterall, just like I'm entitled to my opinion, that's all it is an opinion. I haven't bought a car yet because I haven't found one I really want, if that means I never buy one because the ones I see aren't worth the eventual outlay so be it.


Have you thought about a boxster instead?


No, 944T, 968 or I'm considering a .............



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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 11:42 am 
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What I would like to do is a 968 turbo conversion, but finding the 2.7 head and a 968 for the right dosh with a knackered head maybe isn,t easy. Yes it would cost thousands but a 3.0 turbo would be a very quick car and a keeper.


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What I would like to do is a 968 turbo conversion, but finding the 2.7 head and a 968 for the right dosh with a knackered head maybe isn,t easy. Yes it would cost thousands but a 3.0 turbo would be a very quick car and a keeper.

Ummm... most do a supercharger conversion on the 968, look at 9Meister amonst others. Mine will have a Vortech Blower on an S2 3 litre lump when I get started.
I think the 9Meister conversion is circa 5K but gives big horsepower & uses the original 16 valve head.

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I thought they actually made a handfull of 968 turbos? or eas that urban myth? :?


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I thought they actually made a handfull of 968 turbos? or eas that urban myth? :?


Nope they did make 4 of them. Used as factory sponsored cars, they bailed out of producing it as a factory car because it was quicker than a 911 & Porsche couldn't have that could they :mrgreen:
Been loads of copies since, most use the 2.7 head but they're B...dy expensive, hence my blown one will use the 16V head.

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