tr7v8 wrote:
Roland a slightly diluted version of what actually happened, yes?
Firstly it was me who deleted Bretts two posts at the time. Don't forget this was when he was banned from 2 forums to my knowledge. One of those being PCGB where he was being very vocal. He then started complaining long & loud everywhere else to the point where people just got fed up. He bought those complaints here & hacked everyone else off. Despite various warnings we deleted the specific posts, an overall ban would have been much quicker but we were more benevolent than PCGB.
As for your comment
"Second, I did rejoin this year, made a video of a small convoy to Portland, which some said they were looking forward to seeing and it was received favourably, yet Sean stepped in and in a derisive email claimed I had undermined the integrity of the club and every last man woman and child in the Southern Region."
Sean asked that you alter the title of the Video because we didn't like the phrase 'Car Chase' used in conjunction with what the club does. Not unreasonable? But you decided you didn't like the criticism & decided to take offense.
This is a national club & it can't have escaped even you that cars, especially Sports cars are not viewed in a good light by some people. Having a comment that could be viewed as inflammatory in todays times wasn't that wise.
As for having a regional committee that you keep banging on about I don't see what the problem is? I run a region with an ARO & it is as democratic as I can make it, if someone brings an idea to us then we'll discuss as a group & if we like it go ahead, very often with the originator organising it. If you want to kick something off in the area I'm sure Nick will be more than happy, providing he agrees with it. If that is big enough to warrant assistance then bring those in & if you want to call that a committee so what! What we cannot have is a club within a club which would achieve nothing.
As for empires then you know nothing of what goes on to run the club. We will run the club for the overall good of the members & I believe bearing in mind the climbing membership in a difficult meeting, plus the very successful National event a onth or so ago then that must be obvious that the club is doing well.
If you'd kept your membership then you could have come to the AGM & addressed these directly rather than using the forum as a pulpit.
Hi
Umm thats NOT how I remember it....
It was not 2 of my posts actually....
It was 1 of my threads and 1 of Rolands.....
And they were TOTALLY deleted and should have been locked if the person who deleted them did not like them....
We were told at the time it was SEAN who deleted them....
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As far as the local area is concerned, when the Chairman of the club thinks "his view" of whats right and not right for the club Nationally, i.e. we locally cannot use the phrase CAR CHASE in a small local video.....thats stupid and childish and is following down the path that the PCGB descended to....
Since when did a single individual decide on whats right for the club ???
Free speech anyone ?
I thought you had a committee ?
Do they not have to make decisions ?
Or is it just Seans club now ?
Because if it is, you need to think about the results that will bring...
So far the club has lost my 1 years membership and Rolands 2 years membership fees...
Which if Sean had not intefered with local stuff you would still have in the clubs coffers....
To be honest the only hope i see that Tipec will not follow the PCGB into top down control that forgets its membership and forgets this is a car club are two things, firstly that this forum exists in a "fairly" free format (I am not banned yet lol so that says a lot) and secondly that locally the guys REALLY dont care what the "Top" says and we get on and enjoy our cars..
I really love my Porsche as most do I think...its just such a great shame that "politics" has to come into this at all
All the best Brett