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944 Turbo to Cayman S - discuss
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Author:  briggy [ Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 944 Turbo to Cayman S - discuss
AlpineTurbo wrote:
If you moan about the costs of keeping a 944 in 'factory' condition you don't want an RS4. The bills are simply in another league of silly. How much of another league?

-DRC dampers : £700 per corner if you catch them in time (they'll leak at this point) or £1.4k for a DRC unit on top if you ignore it.
You can fit coilovers but most people have said the ride gets too firm, an RS4 is a balance towards firm as stock to put things into perspective.
-Discs : Rears I believe are dealer only and around £350 each. Fronts can be had as ATE replacements but that's still £400ish for a pair.
-Tyres : £160 minimum a corner, and that's for something like a Falken at that money.
-Decoke ; if it's not been done they will need it at some point due to being direct injection. Again, £££.

I don't want to put you off but my friend has one. He kept quiet about the costs until I got my M3. The M3 is a pricier car than a 944 Turbo to own in so many ways, but again it looks to be on a par/slightly cheaper than an RS4!

Make no mistake, I love my M3, possibly more than the 944 but the 951 had a little more character and far less horror stories. And bills.


Figures above are in the right ball park. No point in a decoke as it just comes back. You can DIY it (walnut shells), but it's every 6 months to keep on top of it. Factor in the MRC Stage 2 remap (removes torque limiter in first 3 gears, amongst other things) to make it the car it should have been. Add the terrible fuel consumption (average 18mpg of Shell's finest) and it's getting towards Maserati costs. However, they suffer from almost no deprecation and you can get an awful lot of repairs done for what you save on that. I ran mine (including fuel) for less than my wife ran her BMW118i over the same 18 month period of time, because of her depreciation. I got lucky with mine and other than wear and tear, the only failure was the front aux radiator, which was replaced with a cold air feed. If I needed another estate car, I'd be back in one, without hesitation. V8, manual, naturally aspirated - a brilliant combination, which is unlikely to be produced again.
Author:  AlpineTurbo [ Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 944 Turbo to Cayman S - discuss
briggy wrote:

Figures above are in the right ball park. No point in a decoke as it just comes back. You can DIY it (walnut shells), but it's every 6 months to keep on top of it. Factor in the MRC Stage 2 remap (removes torque limiter in first 3 gears, amongst other things) to make it the car it should have been. Add the terrible fuel consumption (average 18mpg of Shell's finest) and it's getting towards Maserati costs. However, they suffer from almost no deprecation and you can get an awful lot of repairs done for what you save on that. I ran mine (including fuel) for less than my wife ran her BMW118i over the same 18 month period of time, because of her depreciation. I got lucky with mine and other than wear and tear, the only failure was the front aux radiator, which was replaced with a cold air feed. If I needed another estate car, I'd be back in one, without hesitation. V8, manual, naturally aspirated - a brilliant combination, which is unlikely to be produced again.


The Walnut shells one is interesting. Can you send me a link? You can PM it to save cluttering the thread.

My friend also has that MRC Stage 2 map done ; they see his car quite a bit for routine servicing etc. with him doing interim oil changes. MPG is about as bad as you say as well.

I wonder about selling the M3 for similar reasons but the depreciation is the main one. During its peak of ownership it was costing me around £260 a month by the time you took out insurance and tax; it took around £1.8k within 3 weeks. Ouch! Bar the paint and the subframe I've done everything on that car myself, which has saved a further £1.5k. Either way, these cars (or RS4s) don't give cheap bills.

https://www.pistonheads.com/members/sho ... rId=264552

Back on topic, if you can find dry storage for your Turbo I'd keep that ; it's the better car financially to keep in those circumstances ; prices for them at auctions have been crazy as of late. Otherwise get the Cayman IMHO.
Author:  MisterGT [ Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 944 Turbo to Cayman S - discuss
OK, so here's the update. Because the weather in the UK has been pretty good through most of the Spring/Summer I have been driving the car much more frequently ( had to get the Yeti out during the snow in March though :o ) and have rediscovered how good it is :) so the decision has been made that we are going to keep it :bounce: . Because of this we are finally going to get round to fixing the air con and possibly the clock :wink: Whilst I may eventually change to a Cayman in the future there is something to be said for driving around in a car with pop up headlights :)
Author:  Sean Smallman [ Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:57 am ]
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Nice one :)
Author:  Wh1t3Kn1ght [ Sat Sep 08, 2018 5:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 944 Turbo to Cayman S - discuss
Best decision made :)
Author:  scam75 [ Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 944 Turbo to Cayman S - discuss
Correct answer!
Author:  Waylander [ Sun Sep 09, 2018 4:47 pm ]
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I would chop my 968 for a Cayman S

But it would have to be a really nice one
Author:  Largie [ Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:39 am ]
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My son bought himself a Cayman S earlier this year - it is very nice but £500 road tax for a weekend car use goes against the grain for me. I find the £240 my 968 costs me irritating as well.
David
Author:  pauly [ Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 944 Turbo to Cayman S - discuss
MisterGT wrote:
OK, so here's the update. Because the weather in the UK has been pretty good through most of the Spring/Summer I have been driving the car much more frequently


There's 4 months of crap weather coming...
Author:  MisterGT [ Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 944 Turbo to Cayman S - discuss
Work for the Met Office do we ? :wink: . Personally I would have said 6 (Oct -Mar) but that' s what the yeti is for :)
Author:  Waylander [ Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 944 Turbo to Cayman S - discuss
Largie wrote:
My son bought himself a Cayman S earlier this year - it is very nice but £500 road tax for a weekend car use goes against the grain for me. I find the £240 my 968 costs me irritating as well.
David


yup but if you Buy a Cayman registered before March the 26th 2006 its £230

you just need a repair kit for the clock dead easy, just don't break the trims.

aircon could be a bit more difficult.

I drive my 968 all year round except for the snow and ice,
Author:  briggy [ Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 944 Turbo to Cayman S - discuss
Waylander wrote:
Largie wrote:
My son bought himself a Cayman S earlier this year - it is very nice but £500 road tax for a weekend car use goes against the grain for me. I find the £240 my 968 costs me irritating as well.
David


yup but if you Buy a Cayman registered before March the 26th 2006 its £230



My 2010 registered Cayman S (987.2) is £315 for a year.
Author:  sstman [ Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 944 Turbo to Cayman S - discuss
Yes the £500+ car tax was a bit of a kicker, on my Cayman after the 924 and 968 tax values.... however it’s a huge difference in so many areas... but I still prefer the seats in the 968 for pure long distance comfort . :roll:
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