Porsche Enthusiasts Club Forum

It is currently Sun Apr 28, 2024 5:31 pm
Classic Line Insurance


All times are UTC [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 10 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: 1983 944 speaker upgrade
PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:44 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:27 pm
Posts: 34
TIPEC membership: 0
I'm wanting to improve the sound in my recently aquired 944. It came with coaxial JBL's in the factory door locations but they do not fit underneath the original covers due to the tweeter sticking out so far and the diaphrams are fractured. The rear quarter panels look butchered too, I've not removed them yet so I've no idea whats lurking beneath them. The wiring hasn't faired any better either with the originial cabling cut at as many points were accessable, and new cabling added which doesn't even follow the orignial routing... grim.

So I'm after some pointers. I wish to retain 6" x 4" speakers in the front doors, but want to also keep the factory speaker grills. Which speakers fit? Are any of them half decent?

Having perviously had numerous VW's from the '80's I'm all too familiar with the lack of bass 6"x4"'s produce and, like the JBL's, many don't fit under factory grills. I would be keen to try bridge the bass gap. Has anyone tried the Alpine SWE-1000 underseat active subwoofer? I'm quite taken by this but does it definetly fit under a 944 seat, and does it do what is says on the tin? I've seen that JMGarage do an Apline kit that has this sub and say it fits a 944 - anyone got this?

_________________
'85 944 Lux
'86 944 Turbo


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: 1983 944 speaker upgrade
PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:07 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:59 pm
Posts: 224
Location: Bedford
Rapid_Gav wrote:
I'm wanting to improve the sound in my recently aquired 944. It came with coaxial JBL's in the factory door locations but they do not fit underneath the original covers due to the tweeter sticking out so far and the diaphrams are fractured. The rear quarter panels look butchered too, I've not removed them yet so I've no idea whats lurking beneath them. The wiring hasn't faired any better either with the originial cabling cut at as many points were accessable, and new cabling added which doesn't even follow the orignial routing... grim.

So I'm after some pointers. I wish to retain 6" x 4" speakers in the front doors, but want to also keep the factory speaker grills. Which speakers fit? Are any of them half decent?

Having perviously had numerous VW's from the '80's I'm all too familiar with the lack of bass 6"x4"'s produce and, like the JBL's, many don't fit under factory grills. I would be keen to try bridge the bass gap. Has anyone tried the Alpine SWE-1000 underseat active subwoofer? I'm quite taken by this but does it definetly fit under a 944 seat, and does it do what is says on the tin? I've seen that JMGarage do an Apline kit that has this sub and say it fits a 944 - anyone got this?

Hi,

I'm in the process of upgrading my 87myr with 5.25cm in the rear qtrs (made some marine ply support panels )i'll get some pics at the weekend, gonna put a 12" sub in a custom enclosure in the spare wheel well, keeping the 6x4's in the front doors as i want a discreet upgrade and hide all components, the amp is a quality Sony 6 channel... (i've made an aluminium plate and will fit it to the wooden kick board pass footwell). its quite an challenge to get a decent SQ in the front on a 944 but i'm on it :D

any pics ?

cheers

_________________
Derrick


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: 1983 944 speaker upgrade
PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:03 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:22 pm
Posts: 29
Location: Prudhoe
TIPEC membership: 0
Hi

'85 944
I've just diagnosed my speaker problems this evening, and have found the rear one blown - OEM Blaupunkt 8 637 611 017.

I am looking for a cheap replacement 6x4", anybody seen anything good recently on a budget, I saw these earlier:

Ebay Item No. 110633262241

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Maystar-4x6-45-Wa ... 19c2419ca1

Si.

_________________
'85 944 131,000 Miles


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: 1983 944 speaker upgrade
PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:19 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:26 am
Posts: 1091
Location: Pickmere
TIPEC membership: 4952
Skype ID: JW590
When I was up at Porsch-Apart http://www.porsch-apart.co.uk/ they had a load of speakers stuck to a metal wall using the magnets. They'll probably let you have one for the postage.

If you don't ask you don't get....

_________________
John.

1991 944S2, 222000 miles.
2007 Audi A4 Avant Tdi 140 S-Line
2014 Mercedes SLK 250 AMG
1995 Triumph TR6


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: 1983 944 speaker upgrade
PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:55 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:22 pm
Posts: 29
Location: Prudhoe
TIPEC membership: 0
John, thanks, I've sent them an E-mail, lets see what they have. :wink:

_________________
'85 944 131,000 Miles


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: 1983 944 speaker upgrade
PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:25 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:55 pm
Posts: 1138
TIPEC membership: 6926
Alpine SXE-4625 (6x4) seem to get the best reviews you can pick them up for £35

I have a 1991 car so I have the 10 speaker system......rubbish...... so I have purchased standard door cards with the 6x4 speaker option the standard speakers mounting I have modified to take VIBE SPACE 5s (fantastic) the 6x4 slot houses the tweeter and mid range both under the factory grilles but with blue neon so I can see the cones if I desire ..
The rears are 6" VIBE powered by ALpine PDX-5......subs I am still working on but I think I will fabricate custom enclosures for 2 8" subs in the rear boot


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: 1983 944 speaker upgrade
PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:54 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:22 pm
Posts: 29
Location: Prudhoe
TIPEC membership: 0
Thanks

The Alpine SXE-4625 look good and I've seen them on E-bay too. When I got my car I thought the sound was rubbish, when I found the rear speaker blown and the drivers wire soldered joint loose I thought I was onto a winner.

The car has an alpine head unit but only the fron outputs have been utilised and then put through the std. Porsche front rear fader to give both front and front output.

The Head unit has both front and rear output so it would have been beeter if the guy/gal who put the unit in had used them.

I am suprised that the 10 speaker sytem isnt very good.

Si

_________________
'85 944 131,000 Miles


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: 1983 944 speaker upgrade
PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:49 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:55 pm
Posts: 1138
TIPEC membership: 6926
spedge wrote:
I am suprised that the 10 speaker sytem isnt very good.


To be Fair the system had been messed about with the factory amps had been by passed and the crossovers in doors had joints been changed so not exactly stock


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: 1983 944 speaker upgrade
PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 9:53 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:22 pm
Posts: 29
Location: Prudhoe
TIPEC membership: 0
Well I managed to get the new rear speakers in today, perfect replacement, Blaupunkt for Blaupunkt.

I ended up buying Blaupunkt GTX 462 SC 160W (lol the Alpine Stero only puts out 45W per channel) from Blaupunkt Direct website £27 delivered next day....Bargain :D

The ones I pulled out had no rubbers left on them.

I managed to replace the speakers by only removing the panel screws and left the vinyl tucked into the window then lifted the panel from the bottom, squeezed my hands in and bingo, what a difference.

A pleasure to my ears again now, I found the door speakers had already been replaced with JBL's.

Fleetwood Mac never sounded so good!

_________________
'85 944 131,000 Miles


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: 1983 944 speaker upgrade
PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:11 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:55 pm
Posts: 1138
TIPEC membership: 6926
spedge wrote:
Blaupunkt GTX 462 SC 160W (lol the Alpine Stero only puts out 45W per channel


bet it sounds much better, the 160W is peak power these are 35w nominal so at 45w per channel I recon your about spot on!....

wish mine was complete still very much a work in progress


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 10 posts ] 

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 21 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group